Expectations for Skaggs and Henaey

[Hubs]

My guess for Skaggs will be 17-8, 3.27 ERA in 29 GS, 177 IP.

Harvey will be right around a 3.5 ERA and will manage 30 GS. He'll also go deeper in starts on the average than any of the other regular 5. 193 IP.  He'll win 16 and lose 10..

Heaney will start 33 games with a slightly higher ERA, somewhere around 3.75. 200 IP. He'll win 15 GS, lose 8.

Barria takes a small step back but still manages 27 GS and a 3.8 ERA. Goes 15-10.

Cahill, Pena, JC Ramirez, Tropeano will manage to start 33 GS between them but with a combined 4.2 ERA. They'll go 11-12.

Canning will come on late, start the remaining 10 games, with a sparkling 2.15 ERA and 8-0 record. He'll pitch 3 complete games.

 

 

 

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, HaloNArizona said:

Bookmarking this page!

Im good with that.  I don't feel like it was overly homerish or optimistic. Some good, some not so good. 

[Jay]

[Angelsfan1984]

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

That’s the spirit!  

They still play for the Angels right? 50 games seems like a low ball estimate

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

15 hours ago, Stradling said:

Skaggs was great through 19 starts last year, and then got hurt.  

Which is his norm for Tyler. Good to Great 10-15 or so starts and then gets injured. March 1 start - 1-0 and an 0.00 ERA, April 5 starts 2-2 and a 3.76 ERA and June 5 starts 3-1 and a .84 ERA otherwise he was meh to awful.

vs May 5 starts 0-2 and a 4.28 ERA and July 2-2 and a 6.33 ERA.

Overall, he had a very good first half. But, once again that his is MO whether it be injury, lack of focus or tiredness and leaving his pitches up. He has been Jeckle & Hyde.

I expect more of the same. Until, he can prove his career wrong.

 

Pre All-Star

LAA

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5

2.57

17

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[SlappyUtilityMIF]

3 hours ago, Hubs said:

My guess for Skaggs will be 17-8, 3.27 ERA in 29 GS, 177 IP.

Harvey will be right around a 3.5 ERA and will manage 30 GS. He'll also go deeper in starts on the average than any of the other regular 5. 193 IP.  He'll win 16 and lose 10..

Heaney will start 33 games with a slightly higher ERA, somewhere around 3.75. 200 IP. He'll win 15 GS, lose 8.

Barria takes a small step back but still manages 27 GS and a 3.8 ERA. Goes 15-10.

Cahill, Pena, JC Ramirez, Tropeano will manage to start 33 GS between them but with a combined 4.2 ERA. They'll go 11-12.

Canning will come on late, start the remaining 10 games, with a sparkling 2.15 ERA and 8-0 record. He'll pitch 3 complete games.

 

 

 

Hubs, I would love this! I just don't see Tyler staying healthy or not needing a break as he also fatigues consistently and doesn't throw quick innings. He isn't overly dominant to rely on a single pitch consistently. 

The lack of Quick innings and higher pitch counts could be previous pitching coaches attempting to keep the hitter off balance and by using his entire repertoire. Hopefully, White can work some magic on him!

 

Have we ever had 4 - 15 game winners?.... Might want to pair that back a bit. But, who knows?

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

I'll be happy if their arms don't fall off. Everything else is a bonus.

 

 

Careful what you wish for. Harveys arm is fine, but his butt fell off.

[T.G.]

I expect the ball to come out of their hands really well this year.  If they get hit hard for any reason, I'll expect them to tip their cap to the hitter and turn the page.  Right now they're working on some things, so we'll see how it all plays out.

[floplag]

I think its time for them to take that next step, stay healthy, and show that they can carry a staff.  That is my expectation and hope for both of them in 19. 

[greginpsca]

I have no real expectations, as these 2 are injured more often than healthy. If they can remain healthy, i feel we have a couple of #4's to go along with the rest of our starters who i feel are # 5's.  Anything better than that, i will be happy.

[ksangel]

For Heaney to have a similar year to 2018. A #3+ starter and go  +/- 200 innings.

No expectations for Skaggs to be anything but what he has been...great, bad or hurt. See 2019 as the end of the road with Angels for him. Just doesn't seem to be built to take the wear and tear and never has developed the brass balls it takes to be a stud pitcher...only has glass ones.

Would like to see Felix Pena and Barria be given the chance to further develop and then see Canning and Suarez come up later in the year to see if they really are possible rotation pieces going towards 2020 to go with Heaney and Ohtani. If not then pitching critical next off season.

[Hubs]

20 hours ago, SlappyUtilityMIF said:

Hubs, I would love this! I just don't see Tyler staying healthy or not needing a break as he also fatigues consistently and doesn't throw quick innings. He isn't overly dominant to rely on a single pitch consistently. 

The lack of Quick innings and higher pitch counts could be previous pitching coaches attempting to keep the hitter off balance and by using his entire repertoire. Hopefully, White can work some magic on him!

 

Have we ever had 4 - 15 game winners?.... Might want to pair that back a bit. But, who knows?

I think they would've had that 4 - 15 game winners in 2011 if their offense was as good as this one will be. They allowed 633 runs based solely on the strength of the top 3, who started in 100 games. But Santana only won 11-12 despite pitching to a 3.38 ERA and throwing 228.2 IP.

Skaggs last season had a 2.57 ERA in the 1st 17 starts he made, and a 9.22 ERA in the next 7. He also pitched far better with major league veterans Maldonado and Rivera, versus Arcia and Briceno.

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Hopefully he will work well with Lucroy and Smith.

Heaney was also worse in the second half, at a 4.64 ERA to a 3.78 ERA in the first half.

He also didn't pitch well to Arcia. But did fine with Briceno.

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[failos]

On 2/19/2019 at 10:12 PM, Second Base said:

My expectation is Skaggs will get some Cy Young votes and Heaney will top 190 innings. I also expect Harvey and Cahill will both end up being halfway decent signings. 

I agree

[rafibomb]

Heaney will pitch like a #2, Heaney will pitch like a #3, Cahill, Harvey and Barria will be a #4-5. No true #1 as usual. This is my optimistic take. I honestly believe if Canning started the season with us he would be our number 1 pitcher. I'm that high on him.

[Docwaukee]

who is Henaey?