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How much have we spent on payroll the last 15 years?


Dochalo

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11 hours ago, Dochalo said:

$2.113 b

Rank over that time:

1. Yankees $3.258 b
2. Dodgers $2.515 b
3. Red Sox $2.507 b
4. Angels $2.113 b

 

 

6 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

wins during that time

1. Yakees - 1397
2. Red Sox - 1353
3. Cardinals - 1351
4. Dodgers - 1326
5. Angels - 1317

Dodgers spent 400 million more dollars for 9 whole wins.

 

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We built the team up through the farm system from 2000 when Stoneman took over.  While the 2002 WS championship was a masterpiece of talent, timing and fortune, but the true indicator of what Stoneman created was evident in our success from 2004-2009.  Yes, there were a few prospects that predated his tenure but the key was that he didn't trade them.  

During that time, the farm was the core of the team and the rest was supplemented via Arte's checkbook.  We had the 2nd most wins in baseball over that time.  Stoneman wasn't perfect by any means, but you can see the template.  

Things started to fall apart when we went away from that.  

The team was in far worse shape when Eppler took over than when Stoneman started.  BS inherited an ok farm system and didn't have a bloated payroll to deal with and was able to turn the team around in the 5th year.  So far, Eppler has had 3.  Relative to where we were, he's ahead of schedule.  

We all know it's not the same of course.  The path will be different.  But the foundation is where success starts.  

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31 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

The team was in far worse shape when Eppler took over than when Stoneman started.  BS inherited an ok farm system and didn't have a bloated payroll to deal with and was able to turn the team around in the 5th year.  So far, Eppler has had 3.  Relative to where we were, he's ahead of schedule.  

We all know it's not the same of course.  The path will be different.  But the foundation is where success starts.  

Stoneman inherited a significantly better core and a lot of recently graduated farmhands -- mostly on the pitching side ie Washburn. Schoeneweis, Ortiz, plus Glaus, but the farm system was in shambles.  Better than what Epp took over but possibly the worst the system had been in the previous 20 years.  They had Lackey, Shields, and also Krod in rookie ball but the only future MLB position player in the system at the time was Alfredo Amazega...   Nathan Haynes was the lone teenage position player in the system and while he had a cup of coffee and was billed our top prospect at the time the dude was awful.

The other massive edge Stoneman had was those teams had a ton of financial flexibility.  You had Mo Vaughn's contract and a lot guys on team friendly contracts - Salmon, Edmonds, Anderson, Erstad.

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You know, with regard to the Arte is clearly willing to spend argument, we know this HAS been true, i dont think anyone would argue that. 
The argument is that he doesnt appear to be willing to do so NOW. 
Barring some kind of major surprise in what remains of the off season this is the first time i can recall this team under Arte having a set budget or hearing talks about pushing said budget.  We are now waiting for bad money to fall off instead of moving forward from it as we had in the past.
That is a very large shift in narrative.

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