Am I the only one that’s kind of relieved that Richards is gone ?

[UndertheHalo]

I am a big fan of the guy, and I definitley wish him well.  But it occurred to me while I was reading that Skaggs article in the LA Times today thats it’s kind of a relief that I don’t have to try to convince myself that he’s finally going to make through a season and anchor the Angels rotation.  I would have been fine with them keeping him around but I’m glad that he’s moved on and that the Angels have as well.  

I think that in Garrett Richards case, change is best for everyone. 

[Lou]

"it’s kind of a relief that I don’t have to try to convince myself that he’s finally going to make through a season and anchor the Angels rotation"

he's not pitching this year 

[Dick Enberg]

yep! our self proclaimed "Ace" is gone. Now let the rest of the staff fight it out for Number 1

[mulwin444]

I would have been fine seeing if they could rehab him into a SP for 2020 but I can see why they didn't.

Wish him well in SD.

[Angel Oracle]

GRich's delivery screams "shorter career with smaller number of innings pitched".

[UndertheHalo]

30 minutes ago, Lou said:

"it’s kind of a relief that I don’t have to try to convince myself that he’s finally going to make through a season and anchor the Angels rotation"

he's not pitching this year 

Ya and it’s finally not our problem !

[Torridd]

36 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

I am a big fan of the guy, and I definitley wish him well.  But it occurred to me while I was reading that Skaggs article in the LA Times today thats it’s kind of a relief that I don’t have to try to convince myself that he’s finally going to make through a season and anchor the Angels rotation.  I would have been fine with them keeping him around but I’m glad that he’s moved on and that the Angels have as well.  

I think that in Garrett Richards case, change is best for everyone. 

I don't know. I think he was more unlucky than injury-prone. I wish the Angels had kept him. He's still young and I think he's going to have an 18-win season with someone.

[failos]

I'm relieved. He's a traitor imo

[Lou]

$15 million to hope he might pitch in 2020?

Pass 

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Torridd said:

I don't know. I think he was more unlucky than injury-prone. I wish the Angels had kept him. He's still young and I think he's going to have an 18-win season with someone.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll never win 18 games.

[Torridd]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll never win 18 games.

OK, it's a bet.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Torridd said:

OK, it's a bet.

He won't in 2019.

Do you think he will in 2020?

[Torridd]

3 minutes ago, Lou said:

He won't in 2019.

Do you think he will in 2020?

Well, he's what 32? It's got to be soon!  If I had to guess a year, I'd say 2021.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Well, he's what 32? It's got to be soon!  If I had to guess a year, I'd say 2021.

That's exactly why I said he wouldn't - his age. 

[Torridd]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

That's exactly why I said he wouldn't - his age. 

Turns out he's 30 so I have a pretty good shot. I actually think he's better than Jarrod Washburn and he won 18.

[Lou]

Just now, Torridd said:

Turns out he's 30 so I have a pretty good shot. I actually think he's better than Jarrod Washburn and he won 18.

He'll be 32 during the 2020 season. How many pitchers win 18 games for the first time at age 33+ ?

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

"it’s kind of a relief that I don’t have to try to convince myself that he’s finally going to make through a season and anchor the Angels rotation"

he's not pitching this year 

That's a relief.

[Second Base]

The Angels rotation needs upside and Richards has upside.  So I'm not relieved at all that he's gone.  But the fact is, he's going to cost 15 million without pitching an inning this year.....so no. 

[T.G.]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

He'll be 32 during the 2020 season. How many pitchers win 18 games for the first time at age 33+ ?

It only takes one....

[jsnpritchett]

15 minutes ago, Lou said:

He'll be 32 during the 2020 season. How many pitchers win 18 games for the first time at age 33+ ?

It has actually happened quite a bit, but a lot of the occurrences have extenuating circumstances (e.g., occurred during wartime when competition was weaker, occurred pre-1950 when some "minor leagues" were seen as just as competitive as the majors and teams held onto their players longer, someone switching to primarily being a knuckleball pitcher, etc.).  That said, it happened as recently as 2017 with Jason Vargas.  Scroll through the list below.  One name in particular might jump out at you...

 

Cy Falkenberg:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/falkecy01.shtml

George McConnell (in the Federal League, which is technically considered a major league):

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcconge01.shtml

Heinie Meine:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/meinehe01.shtml

Earl Whitehill:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/whiteea01.shtml

Jim Turner:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/turneji01.shtml

Luke Hamlin:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hamlilu01.shtml

Thornton Lee:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/leeth01.shtml

Whitlow Wyatt:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wyattwh01.shtml

Rip Sewell:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sewelri01.shtml

Spud Chandler:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chandsp01.shtml

Roger Wolff:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wolffro01.shtml

Phil Marchildon:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/marchph01.shtml

Harry Brecheen:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/brechha01.shtml

Preacher Roe:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/roepr01.shtml

Sal Maglie:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/maglisa01.shtml

Murry Dickson:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dicksmu01.shtml

Sam Jones:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonessa02.shtml

Cal McLish:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mclisca01.shtml

Dick Donovan:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/donovdi01.shtml

Curt Simmons:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/simmocu01.shtml

Tommy John:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnto01.shtml

Joe Niekro:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/n/niekrjo01.shtml

Geoff Zahn:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/z/zahnge01.shtml

Mike Krukow:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/krukomi01.shtml

Charlie Hough:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/houghch01.shtml

Bob Welch:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/welchbo01.shtml

Kevin Tapani:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tapanke01.shtml

David Wells:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wellsda01.shtml

Curt Schilling:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/schilcu01.shtml

Jamie Moyer:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moyerja01.shtml

Woody Williams:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/williwo02.shtml

Kenny Rogers:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rogerke01.shtml

R.A. Dickey:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dicker.01.shtml

J.A. Happ:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/happja01.shtml

Jason Vargas: (2017)

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vargaja01.shtml

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Dick Enberg said:

yep! our self proclaimed "Ace" is gone. Now let the rest of the staff fight it out for Number 1

Did he actually proclaim himself to be the Ace of the team?

 

[Lou]

@jsnpritchett

how many in the last 15-20 years? how many of those were coming off TJ surgery?

after checking his stats, i say there's no way in hell he does it. he's only won more than 7 games twice. he's only started 18+ games twice, too. 

[JarsOfClay]

48 minutes ago, Randy Gradishar said:

I was always a fan and defender, but I hope he fails after hearing that he turned down a close offer from the Angels. Dude owes his life to this team.

This is really insensitive. You realize he might never be able to pitch again and every single dollar counts?

He has to do what's best for his future, and that was taking the highest offer possible.

[Dick Enberg]

23 minutes ago, Jay said:

Did he actually proclaim himself to be the Ace of the team?

 

yes. in one of those dugout TV interviews early last year. didn't say "Ace" but let it be know he was number 1 and felt everyone was looking up to him as a number 1

[Slegnaac]

2 hours ago, Lou said:

He'll be 32 during the 2020 season. How many pitchers win 18 games for the first time at age 33+ ?

Probably a healthy one.