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Anyhow, I'm so fucking sick of the Democratic establishment that I'm really thinking of not voting or going third party if Biden is the nominee. I imagine many Bernie supporters feel similarly.

Even if Biden beats Trump, a Biden presidency of four years would be followed bis VP being the anointed one, and that would likely be Klobuchar or Buttigieg, maybe Warren. Progressives might not have another real shot until 2032.

So if I have to deal with four more years of Trump,  but then a real shot for a progressive in 2024, or 12 years of Biden-Warren-Klobuchar-Buttigieg, I'll probably stay home.

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2 minutes ago, Jay said:

I think if Bernie does well tonight, we'll see both Bloomberg and Warren drop out.

Bloomberg will join Biden, and Warren will join Bernie.

 

Doubtful about Warren. She's chosen her side and is playing spoiler to Bernie in the hopes that the DNC will anoint her as the compromise candidate at the convention. Hope I'm wrong and you're right, though.

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2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Anyhow, I'm so fucking sick of the Democratic establishment that I'm really thinking of not voting or going third party if Biden is the nominee. I imagine many Bernie supporters feel similarly.

Even if Biden beats Trump, a Biden presidency of four years would be followed bis VP being the anointed one, and that would likely be Klobuchar or Buttigieg, maybe Warren. Progressives might not have another real shot until 2032.

So if I have to deal with four more years of Trump,  but then a real shot for a progressive in 2024, or 12 years of Biden-Warren-Klobuchar-Buttigieg, I'll probably stay home.

I wont vote for Biden at all unless his VP is a progressive. I might actually vote for Trump as a protest to this stupid centrist crap that they keep shoving down our throats and keep losing elections with.

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1 minute ago, JarsOfClay said:

I wont vote for Biden at all unless his VP is a progressive. I might actually vote for Trump as a protest to this stupid centrist crap that they keep shoving down our throats and keep losing elections with.

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The Dem establishment is pushing a centrist because they think that's their best chance at winning the White House and they're also afraid of the blow back in the voting booth against other D's running if Bernie gets the nomination.  I tend to agree with the first part but unfortunately they rallied behind Biden who appears to be aging into senility right before our eyes.  If Bernie doesn't get the nomination maybe it's time for him and his supporters to not try piggybacking off the Dem ticket and create a viable third party.   

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1 hour ago, Catwhoshatinthehat said:

The Dem establishment is pushing a centrist because they think that's their best chance at winning the White House and they're also afraid of the blow back in the voting booth against other D's running if Bernie gets the nomination.  I tend to agree with the first part but unfortunately they rallied behind Biden who appears to be aging into senility right before our eyes.  If Bernie doesn't get the nomination maybe it's time for him and his supporters to not try piggybacking off the Dem ticket and create a viable third party.   

Bernie is done after this election cycle. If any of the new young Turks want to splinter off they will have to go it alone and suffer the growing pains other countries have with labor parties. This election cycle a labor party candidate will neither have the power or influence to secure the presidency or push through policy, there is not enough national support for their proposals. 

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