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15 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

Apparently Sanders has won Nevada quite easily. This is real momentum, folks.

The scary thing is, when Bernie is called a communist, the under-40 voters like him even more.

It's not that they like him even more, the right has abused the words socialism and communism so much that people have become numb to it.

For example, Mitch McConnell said that the democrats wanting DC and Puerto Rico to be given statehood was socialism.

Seriously, statehood is socialism now? lol 

https://dcist.com/story/19/06/18/mitch-mcconnell-calls-d-c-statehood-full-bore-socialism/

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10 hours ago, angelinkc said:

Huge issue with the Democrat platform is they won't use the system we have in place. We have by design a country that should have limited federal powers and optimal state /local government. The states have sold out a lot for federal money and grown the federal laws for years. We can ultimately return power to the states but libs won't support it. If you want high taxes, alternative lifestyles, late term abortion , and poop in the streets go for it.

Do it in California, New York and anywhere you have the majority. Leave that giant red area alone. I can let libs as they wish and not care, The problem is the same respect of freedoms and opinions is not returned. The dems know they don't have the money to sustain their BS without stealing mine. They seek social acceptance for a lot of abnormal behaviors. I really don't understand their quest for social approval. Most don't believe in God and my approval don't mean shit. Quit trying  to force normal people to accept  and pay for all the BS. Lets agree to to defend our borders and freedoms against all enemies. I'll fight for your right to blow men if you respect my right to think it is wrong. 

You are far from "normal." Mr. Hateful Bigot.

You are disgusting and repulsive. 

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I am a political moderate who was registered Republican for 20 years (until just recently). I voted for Hilary in 2016, and have always despised Trump. A second Trump term is terrifying, but a first Sanders term is even more terrifying. Sanders is one of the few people in government I dislike more than Trump.

I cannot be the only political moderate who feels this way. And that tells me that Trump is going to easily win re-election. It blows me away that Democrats are too dumb, naive, or ideologically headstrong to see this.

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27 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I am a political moderate who was registered Republican for 20 years (until just recently). I voted for Hilary in 2016, and have always despised Trump. A second Trump term is terrifying, but a first Sanders term is even more terrifying. Sanders is one of the few people in government I dislike more than Trump.

I cannot be the only political moderate who feels this way. And that tells me that Trump is going to easily win re-election. It blows me away that Democrats are too dumb, naive, or ideologically headstrong to see this.

What is it about Sanders that terrifies you exactly?

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32 minutes ago, wopphil said:

I am a political moderate who was registered Republican for 20 years (until just recently). I voted for Hilary in 2016, and have always despised Trump. A second Trump term is terrifying, but a first Sanders term is even more terrifying. Sanders is one of the few people in government I dislike more than Trump.

I cannot be the only political moderate who feels this way. And that tells me that Trump is going to easily win re-election. It blows me away that Democrats are too dumb, naive, or ideologically headstrong to see this.

The Democrats don't want Bernie to be President just as much as the Republicans. And we'll almost certainly see some bullshit that screws him over anyway.

I'm curious as to why you dislike him more than Trump, saying as you're a "moderate". And while your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses, it doesn't represent moderates as a whole. I can see just as many of them going for Bernie.

Bernie isn't as far to the left as you guys think he is. Maybe in American politics, but in places like Denmark he'd be considered a social Democrat. (No, not a "socialist", and nowhere fucking close to a "communist").

 

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Folks like this don’t have a problem with Trumps policies mostly.  Which are a perfect crystallization of conservative ideology over the last 50 years.  
 

they dislike the aesthetics.  That’s it.  He’s vulgar and rude.  
 

anyway, everyone should vote their conscience. 

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55 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

The Democrats don't want Bernie to be President just as much as the Republicans. And we'll almost certainly see some bullshit that screws him over anyway.

I'm curious as to why you dislike him more than Trump, saying as you're a "moderate". And while your opinion is just as valid as anyone elses, it doesn't represent moderates as a whole. I can see just as many of them going for Bernie.

Bernie isn't as far to the left as you guys think he is. Maybe in American politics, but in places like Denmark he'd be considered a social Democrat. (No, not a "socialist", and nowhere fucking close to a "communist").

 

I'm guessing it's strictly his policies which is a legit concern. 

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59 minutes ago, JarsOfClay said:

What is it about Sanders that terrifies you exactly?

I don’t want socialism. It promotes laziness among those who don’t want to work hard. The more you give people, the more dependent they become. No different than spoiled children.

I work my ass off. I pay more than enough in taxes. I am happy to help the truly vulnerable or disadvantaged. But I don’t want the fruits of my labor going to the guy who isn’t willing to wake up at 4:30 every morning and put in a 60 hour work week. I work harder than that guy and deserve to reap the benefits of that work. And Bernie wants to take that away from me.

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1 minute ago, wopphil said:

I don’t want socialism. It promotes laziness among those who don’t want to work hard. The more you give people, the more dependent they become. No different than spoiled children.

I work my ass off. I pay more than enough in taxes. I am happy to help the truly vulnerable or disadvantaged. But I don’t want the fruits of my labor going to the guy who isn’t willing to wake up at 4:30 every morning and put in a 60 hour work week. I work harder than that guy and deserve to reap the benefits of that work. And Bernie wants to take that away from me.

All this just equals more and more government control. I don't understand why some people want that seeing what we've seen over the past few years. 

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Just now, wopphil said:

I don’t want socialism. It promotes laziness among those who don’t want to work hard. The more you give people, the more dependent they become. No different than spoiled children.

I work my ass off. I pay more than enough in taxes. I am happy to help the truly vulnerable or disadvantaged. But I don’t want the fruits of my labor going to the guy who isn’t willing to wake up at 4:30 every morning and put in a 60 hour work week. I work harder than that guy and deserve to reap the benefits of that work. And Bernie wants to take that away from me.

What policy are you referring to in which Bernie wants to take money from you and give it to people who don't work as hard as you?

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3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

What policy are you referring to in which Bernie wants to take money from you and give it to people who don't work as hard as you?

The one where he said he wants to socialize healthcare, forgive student loan debt (except mine, because I make too much), and raise my taxes to pay for it all. 

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1 hour ago, JarsOfClay said:

You are far from "normal." Mr. Hateful Bigot.

You are disgusting and repulsive. 

My point exactly. I can tolerate and coexist the left's behaviors and social norms. Ultimately, I am not the judge. However, my refusal to approve of gets instant bigots call from the left. I smoke. It is dumb and unhealthy but I enjoy it. I don't believe I have a right to smoke indoors and create propaganda campaigns to promote my unhealthy lifestyle to innocent kids. I can respect peoples right to disagree and not associate with me if they don't approve.  The left however promotes this garbage to the kids well before the are ready to make big decisions. 

I am abnormal for accepting my gender and banging the opposite gender accordingly. There is no other species in the world that struggles with gender and actively chooses to mate with same sex. I won't be the judge but you can't say choosing to do so is the norm.

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