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7 minutes ago, Kevin said:

True.

 

But that means you have to give back that filthy social security money you'll eventually get....

give it back? it was my money in the first place.

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49 minutes ago, Tank said:

give it back? it was my money in the first place.

The money that you were forced to pay is long gone. It will be my money, forcibly taken as well, that will support you. 

I'm obviously not serious Tank, just pointing out how social security is such a scheme and very socialistic in nature.

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1 hour ago, Kevin said:

I'm obviously not serious Tank, just pointing out how social security is such a scheme and very socialistic in nature.

As far as it's structured in the US, absolutely.  In some other countries they pay into a system and the funds are actually set aside for them or their family in an account they get statements on.  Those countries have the advantage of setting up their schemes after the US and they probably saw what not to do in some ways.  Personally I don't count on anything from SS when thinking about retirement funds because I don't know how it will change by the time I get there.  It wasn't supposed to be taxed and yet the income threshold for that to start is pretty low.  I wouldn't be surprised to see means testing in the future.  The people saying to remove the wage cap don't seem to realize the formula calculating what someone gets is based on what they pay in so just removing the cap would mean people are owed more when they start drawing.  

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6 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Anyone who thinks full-blown capitalism OR full-blown socialism is the way to go is an idiot. There needs to be a mixture of both so that both government and businesses are kept in check.

Agreed

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3 hours ago, Taylor said:

What if the Capitalist dude's body collapses onto the plank after it gets shot?

The socialist dies of starvation waiting in the bread line. 

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Just now, Blarg said:

The socialist dies of starvation waiting in the bread line. 

If he's a good socialist, he'll join the government and eat for the rest of his life, rather than being a lowly starving peasant.

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2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Anyone who thinks full-blown capitalism OR full-blown socialism is the way to go is an idiot. There needs to be a mixture of both so that both government and businesses are kept in check.

LOL @ government being kept in check

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3 hours ago, Taylor said:

Anyone who thinks full-blown capitalism OR full-blown socialism is the way to go is an idiot. There needs to be a mixture of both so that both government and businesses are kept in check.

So China and Communism.  

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2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

>implying the government isn't actually run by big business

government is the mafia. You wanna do business you better grease the palms of the men with guns

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11 hours ago, Tank said:

thank you, ya big flatterer! still a truthful concept.

 

11 hours ago, Adam said:

And everyone who has taken history classes.

The irony is that the beloved of the white independents, Andrew Yang, has repeated pointed out that the capitalism-socialism dichotomy is false outdated. Too many Americans still don't get this.

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