Yankees could be eyeing Rockies' superstar Nolan Arenado.

[Chuck]

Andy Martino of SNY reports that the Yankees could be eyeing Rockies' superstar Nolan Arenado.

Perhaps that's why they haven't shown as much interest as anticipated in Manny Machado this winter. Arenado is entering the final season on his deal in Colorado, and according to Martino's sources, the two sides have already discussed a potential deal at some point this offseason. While the Rockies have been open about their desire to sign Arenado to a long-term contract extension, the chances of that happening don't appear to be great, especially as the two sides heading to a record-breaking arbitration hearing. If they get to a point where they feel that the extension is futile, it wouldn't be surprising at all to see Arenado dealt before the trade deadline. Jan 18 - 6:26 PM

Source: SNY

[jordan]

Similarly to what could be with Trout and what did happen with Ohtani, I expect almost every team to go after Arenado.  And I expect many of the offers to be similar. Then it comes down to location, chances of winning, and players on the team.  

[Turd Ferguson]

48 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Andy Martino of SNY reports that the Yankees could be eyeing Rockies' superstar Nolan Arenado.

Perhaps that's why they haven't shown as much interest as anticipated in Manny Machado this winter. Arenado is entering the final season on his deal in Colorado, and according to Martino's sources, the two sides have already discussed a potential deal at some point this offseason. While the Rockies have been open about their desire to sign Arenado to a long-term contract extension, the chances of that happening don't appear to be great, especially as the two sides heading to a record-breaking arbitration hearing. If they get to a point where they feel that the extension is futile, it wouldn't be surprising at all to see Arenado dealt before the trade deadline. Jan 18 - 6:26 PM

Source: SNY

Wouldn't that be tampering?

[Osland Angel]

I think he was talking about the Rockies and Yankees

[Lou]

2 hours ago, Turd Ferguson said:

Wouldn't that be tampering?

no. 

[Angelsjunky]

Arenado's career road numbers: .263/.318/.469, 108 wRC+

 

[Pancake Bear]

22 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Arenado's career road numbers: .263/.318/.469, 108 wRC+

 

He’d probably do fairly well in the AL East, tbh. 

[Lou]

so the Yankees "could be eyeing" a superstar? 

[Blarg]

Mid season. 

[TroutAdell]

2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Arenado's career road numbers: .263/.318/.469, 108 wRC+

 

Hitting in the Yankee Little League park isn’t much different than hitting in Colorado. The AL East is littered with hitters parks unlike the NL West. Arenado doesn’t strike me as a Yankee type. I think the Red Sox would be more of a fit than the Yankees. Let’s hope he wants to come home. 

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Arenado's career road numbers: .263/.318/.469, 108 wRC+

 

The past three years road OPS though?

Somewhere around .850, with 1/3 of those road games in S.F., L.A., and S.D. - all big pitcher parks.

And unlike Harper and Machado, his consistency has pretty much always been there.

[nate]

The Yankees already have like 450 infielders, why are they going after another one.

[Stradling]

14 minutes ago, nate said:

The Yankees already have like 450 infielders, why are they going after another one.

To trade one for a bullpen piece.  

[Docwaukee]

47 minutes ago, nate said:

The Yankees already have like 450 infielders, why are they going after another one.

my guess would be that Andujar would go to the Rockies in the deal.  Or maybe Torres.  If I were Col, of course I would want Torres.  

 

[NJHalo]

1 hour ago, nate said:

The Yankees already have like 450 infielders, why are they going after another one.

Loading up on trade pieces to send to SF for MadBum.

It’s gonna happen. That’s the only thing missing on the Yankees, a true ace.

[Docwaukee]

35 minutes ago, NJHalo said:

Loading up on trade pieces to send to SF for MadBum.

It’s gonna happen. That’s the only thing missing on the Yankees, a true ace.

Severino is way more of an ace than Madbum at this point.  I would even consider Paxton at or even slightly above.  

[NJHalo]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

Severino is way more of an ace than Madbum at this point.  I would even consider Paxton at or even slightly above.  

Severino career post season 6.26 ERA

MadBum career post season 1.94 ERA

Paxton has no playoff experience 

[Docwaukee]

Just now, NJHalo said:

Severino career post season 6.26 ERA

MadBum career post season 1.94 ERA

Paxton has no playoff experience 

ok.  so? 

Wade Miley has a 1.23 era in the post season.  is he an ace?  

[NJHalo]

1 hour ago, Dochalo said:

ok.  so? 

Wade Miley has a 1.23 era in the post season.  is he an ace?  

So, the Yankees had no ace to count on in the post season. Still a weak spot when they need to match up against Houston or Boston. Tell me which Yankees starting pitcher can you count on in a big game in October?

Do you really want to compare Miley to Bumgartner in the post season?

 

 

Edited January 19, 2019 by NJHalo

[ukyah]

madbum is the friggin red baron in the post season. he's the ace of aces, until he's not.

there's no way his acquisition can be overstated for a team, like the yankees, that expects to win the world series.

[ettin]

1 hour ago, ukyah said:

madbum is the friggin red baron in the post season. he's the ace of aces, until he's not.

there's no way his acquisition can be overstated for a team, like the yankees, that expects to win the world series.

Although I will say he has handled all of his post-season appearances well, there is no promise to the future. You can look at declining velocity, actual results, and be able to see a decline. That decline can be for multiple reasons but you just don't go out and ignore all of that data. When you do that you get Scott Kazmir.

[ukyah]

3 hours ago, ettin said:

Although I will say he has handled all of his post-season appearances well, there is no promise to the future. You can look at declining velocity, actual results, and be able to see a decline. That decline can be for multiple reasons but you just don't go out and ignore all of that data. When you do that you get Scott Kazmir.

scott kazmir doesn't even enter the picture as a comparable. he had a career era of 4.01 and a post season era of 5.18 over 6 series.

i understand players decline, but madbum was never the most dominant ace in the regular season with a career era of 3.03 , but what's the list of post season pitchers that have dominated more than he has, 12 postseason series 11-1 and a 2.11 era, and in the biggest spots? it's a pretty friggin' short list. i stick by what i said, until he shows us that he's no longer the pitcher he was, then that guy is the ace of aces. last point, madbum is 29 years old. you're talking about him like he's 33.

 

[Angel Oracle]

MadBum with the deep LF/LCF fences in NY is scary.

[ettin]

14 hours ago, ukyah said:

scott kazmir doesn't even enter the picture as a comparable. he had a career era of 4.01 and a post season era of 5.18 over 6 series.

i understand players decline, but madbum was never the most dominant ace in the regular season with a career era of 3.03 , but what's the list of post season pitchers that have dominated more than he has, 12 postseason series 11-1 and a 2.11 era, and in the biggest spots? it's a pretty friggin' short list. i stick by what i said, until he shows us that he's no longer the pitcher he was, then that guy is the ace of aces. last point, madbum is 29 years old. you're talking about him like he's 33.

 

I wasn't trying to compare Bumgarner's skills in the postseason to Kazmir, @ukyah I was pointing out that when the Angels acquired Kazmir, they ignored all of his crappy peripherals that were screaming don't buy me and an already creeping reduction in velocity. It is a buyer beware moment in the sense that you have to look at who he is now and how that may impact your team. It is due diligence and prudence before investing a lot of resources (money and prospects) to acquire him.

[Docwaukee]

Bumgarner's epic performance in the post season was 5 years ago and since then he's not been the same guy.  In fact, his last outing in the playoffs was 2016 where he gave up 3 runs on 7 hits in 5ip.  

But keep thinking his 2014 post season performance is still relevant.