The Official 2019 Minor League Statline and Prospect Discussion Thread

[rafibomb]

Trent Deveaux was called up and is making his debut for the Orem Owlz today.

[Second Base]

3 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

Good stuff. this is the only one that I'll quibble with. I think Marsh could have a better hit tool than Adell, if we're talking contact and batting average. They could hit similarly in the majors, but I'd give Marsh the edge.

Marsh has 289 strikeouts in 1186 plate appearances and a minor league career batting average of .287.  Adell has 245 in 975 and has a career batting average of .296.  Adell hit .326 in A Ball, Brandon Marsh hit .295.  Adell hit .290 in Advanced A Ball and Marsh hit .256.  Adell hit .308 in AA this year at age 20, and Marsh has hit .299 at age 21.

I know that we're all "feeling" each other on Brandon Marsh right now, but let's keep a little perspective.  He's not a better hitter than Jo Adell.  Not in contact, not in batting average, nor in power.  He has better plate discipline though.   

Brandon Marsh is underrated by most prospect sites, but there's a reason Jo Adell is one of the two best position prospects in all of baseball, and most of it has to do with his bat. 

[Angelsjunky]

5 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Marsh has 289 strikeouts in 1186 plate appearances and a minor league career batting average of .287.  Adell has 245 in 975 and has a career batting average of .296.  Adell hit .326 in A Ball, Brandon Marsh hit .295.  Adell hit .290 in Advanced A Ball and Marsh hit .256.  Adell hit .308 in AA this year at age 20, and Marsh has hit .299 at age 21.

I know that we're all "feeling" each other on Brandon Marsh right now, but let's keep a little perspective.  He's not a better hitter than Jo Adell.  Not in contact, not in batting average, nor in power.  He has better plate discipline though.   

Brandon Marsh is underrated by most prospect sites, but there's a reason Jo Adell is one of the two best position prospects in all of baseball, and most of it has to do with his bat. 

OK, but the thing is that unless Adell develops more plate discipline, his batting average will be more exploited in the major leagues. Marsh's BA seems more sustainable due to his plate discipline.

They're close, but I'm saying slight edge: Marsh (for bat tool).

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

OK, but the thing is that unless Adell develops more plate discipline, his batting average will be more exploited in the major leagues. Marsh's BA seems more sustainable due to his plate discipline.

They're close, but I'm saying slight edge: Marsh (for bat tool).

I suppose, but Marsh is just as strikeout prone as Adell, probably a little more.  So logically, Marsh will likely swing and miss more in the majors than he has in the minors, which could also result in a significant decrease in batting average. 

Marsh's biggest thing is his GB%.  If his line drive percentage is going to remain lower as it is, then he can't be hitting the ball not he ground more than 50% of the time.  I know we all talk about launch angle revolution and everything, and it's becoming a bit cliche, but in Marsh's case that would truly revolutionize his game. 

[Second Base]

Also, I'm not saying this to delegitimize Marsh's recent performance, but I'm always leery of breakout performances this time of year.  There' s a lot of promotions that happen in August, particularly on the mound, and you think that this player has successfully "figured out" a level, only to realize they have been pounding on a lot of players that talent-wise, are still a step below them. 

Again, that doesn't mean Marsh's recent hot streak is that.  I'm only saying it happens this time of year. 

[Docwaukee]

personally feel that Adell has the better hit tool.  His ability to go the other way with power by letting the ball get deep in the zone will afford him better results long term.  

[Docwaukee]

combined no hitter for Burlington

Soriano - 3.2ip, 5bb, 4k
Robinson - 1.1ip, 1k
Yan - 3.0ip, 1bb, 2k
Sykes - 2.0ip, 1bb, 2k

10 no hit innings for those guys and the bees win 1-0.  Nonie Williams with the walk off single.  

[Angelsjunky]

Who is Nonie Williams?

[Docwaukee]

42 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Who is Nonie Williams?

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

Who is Nonie Williams?

I'll do you one better.  Why is Nonie Williams?

[Docwaukee]

20 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I'll do you one better.  Why is Nonie Williams?

poor Nonie.  dude just couldn't find it.  

[Docwaukee]

Adell 3-5 tonight with a double.  

10 for his last 26 not including those 2hrs that got washed out.  3 doubles during that stretch.  Still whiffing a ton and not really walking much, but it's a good start.  

Rojas hit his 30th.  He now has 30/105 with a .955 ops.  I hope they call him up for sept.  

[Docwaukee]

Kyle Tyler with another strong start for IE.  6.2ip, 6h, 1er, 0bb, 4k.  

over his last 14 starts - 72 ip, 45h, 12er, 20bb, 59k which is a 1.50 era.   

[Docwaukee]

knowles 2/4, double. 

Jackson back in the lineup.  1-4 with a double and 3k

deveaux debut at orem didn't go well.  0-5 with 5k.  

Caleb Scires, a 20yo (soon to be 21 in about 4 days) is a 17th rounder in 2017.  LHed hitter.  Plays OF.  2-5 tonight with his 5th multi hit game in a row.  Picked up from a texas JC.  He's got a .911 ops for the season with a ton of walks and a ton of K (45k and 17bb in 97 at bats).  

[Angelsjunky]

Nonie rhymes with yoni. 

[tdawg87]

6 hours ago, Dochalo said:

deveaux debut at orem didn't go well.  0-5 with 5k. 

Season over.

[Scott34]

Jackson HR 22. 

[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, Scott34 said:

Jackson HR 22. 

[Angelsjunky]

I wonder how many times the word "boner" has been Googled on tdawg's computer.

Anyhow, that's a good one - I had to find it.

 

[rafibomb]

Jo Adell with another 3-hit game and his 3-4 so far tonight. That's his third straight game with 3-hits.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, rafibomb said:

Jo Adell with another 3-hit game and his 3-4 so far tonight. That's his third straight game with 3-hits.

But no HR. 

Trade pls

[Scott34]

Adell, Marsh, and Jackson all had terrific years. Three really really good raw hitting prospects. Adell obviously the highest upside but man Marsh is looking like he could be a table setter for years to come. 

[rafibomb]

Brandon Marsh with another multi-hit game, 2-4 with a double, to bring his average up to .301 and OPS up to .817

[wopphil]

1 minute ago, rafibomb said:

Brandon Marsh with another multi-hit game, 2-4 with a double, to bring his average up to .301 and OPS up to .817

He is having a great year, especially when you compare him to others in the league and then look at his age.

[rafibomb]

Our 2018 5th round draft pick, William Holmes (William English), is 2-2 with a double, 2 walks and 4 RBI's in his Orem Owlz debut tonight as the DH.