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AL West Standings since 2013


Chuckster70

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5 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

It all depends where you slice the cake. Houston was 51-111 in 2013, which skews this greatly. How about since 2015:

Astros: 374-294

Mariners: 329-319

Rangers: 328-320

Angels: 319-329

Athletics: 319-329

Other than the Astros, that's a lot of mediocrity over the last four years.

The cake was sliced in 2013, thanks Debbie D. 

I mean, I could have sliced it in 2008 but the Astros were not in our division from then till 2012. 

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3 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

The cake was sliced in 2013, thanks Debbie D. 

I mean, I could have sliced it in 2008 but the Astros were not in our division from then till 2012. 

I knew I was going to get a Debbie D - hurrah!

The standings I listed give a more accurate picture of recent years, though. We are five years removed from the Angels being good and the Astros being bad.

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17 minutes ago, floplag said:

WE got screwed with that, Hou was by that time already set to become very dangerous very fast.

do you know where Sickel's had Houston's farm system ranked before the 2013 season?  10th. 

even after that they ended up with the 1.1 pick in 2013 (Mark Appel) and in 2014 (Brady Aiken - they skipped on Bryant who went 1.2).   They made up for it in 2015 when they got Bregman at 1.2.  

Boosted to 3rd in 2014 then dropped back to 10th in 2015 mostly as a result of their upper guys graduating to the bigs.  

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2 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

do you know where Sickel's had Houston's farm system ranked before the 2013 season?  10th. 

even after that they ended up with the 1.1 pick in 2013 (Mark Appel) and in 2014 (Brady Aiken - they skipped on Bryant who went 1.2).   They made up for it in 2015 when they got Bregman at 1.2.  

Boosted to 3rd in 2014 then dropped back to 10th in 2015 mostly as a result of their upper guys graduating to the bigs.  

It's amazing that they still became really good, despite a total flub on two straight #1 overall picks.

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3 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

do you know where Sickel's had Houston's farm system ranked before the 2013 season?  10th. 

even after that they ended up with the 1.1 pick in 2013 (Mark Appel) and in 2014 (Brady Aiken - they skipped on Bryant who went 1.2).   They made up for it in 2015 when they got Bregman at 1.2.  

Boosted to 3rd in 2014 then dropped back to 10th in 2015 mostly as a result of their upper guys graduating to the bigs.  

And now the Red Sux are so glad that they became 2018 WS champs, because as their stars become FAs, their farm can't help them like it did recently.

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1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

It's amazing that they still became really good, despite a total flub on two straight #1 overall picks.

drafting in the top 5 certainly helps, but they did well internationally, and had some nice pickups later on in drafts.  They also made some good trades and then it all came together.  

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2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

It all depends where you slice the cake. Houston was 51-111 in 2013, which skews this greatly. How about since 2015:

Astros: 374-294

Mariners: 329-319

Rangers: 328-320

Angels: 319-329

Athletics: 319-329

Other than the Astros, that's a lot of mediocrity over the last four years.

The Astros number is wrong because somewhere you added 20 losses. They are 100 games over .500 their past 4 years. But in the previous 4, they were 232-416. That's nearly 200 under. It's a reign of futility that I honestly can't remember in Baseball the past few years. 

Here's the last six years of standings:

2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

Angels 78-84, 98-64, 85-77, 74-88, 80-82, 80-82

Astros 51-111, 70-92, 86-76, 84-74, 101-61, 103-59

A's 96-66, 88-74, 68-94, 69-93, 75-87, 97-65

Mariners 71-91, 87-75, 76-86, 86-76, 78-84, 89-73

Rangers 91-72, 67-95, 88-74, 95-67, 78-84, 67-95

 

 

         
         
         
         
         
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3 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

It all depends where you slice the cake. Houston was 51-111 in 2013, which skews this greatly. How about since 2015:

Astros: 374-294

Mariners: 329-319

Rangers: 328-320

Angels: 319-329

Athletics: 319-329

Other than the Astros, that's a lot of mediocrity over the last four years.

If they had a Party Pooper icon you would have got one of those too.  ?

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2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

It's amazing that they still became really good, despite a total flub on two straight #1 overall picks.

They've gotten some really good players before and after that. Consider:

2011: George Springer (1.11)

2012: Carlos Correa (1.1), Lance McCullers (1s.41)

2013: Mark Appel (1.1)

2014: Brady Aiken (1.1)

2015: Alex Bregman (1.2), Kyle Tucker (1.5)

Appel/Aiken bombed, but five of the other guys are stars or impact players, and the other looks like he's on the road to at least being a good player (Tucker).

 

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39 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

They've gotten some really good players before and after that. Consider:

2011: George Springer (1.11)

2012: Carlos Correa (1.1), Lance McCullers (1s.41)

2013: Mark Appel (1.1)

2014: Brady Aiken (1.1)

2015: Alex Bregman (1.2), Kyle Tucker (1.5)

Appel/Aiken bombed, but five of the other guys are stars or impact players, and the other looks like he's on the road to at least being a good player (Tucker).

 

and they got Whitley at 1.17 in 2016.  picked right after Thaiss.  

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3 hours ago, Dochalo said:

do you know where Sickel's had Houston's farm system ranked before the 2013 season?  10th. 

even after that they ended up with the 1.1 pick in 2013 (Mark Appel) and in 2014 (Brady Aiken - they skipped on Bryant who went 1.2).   They made up for it in 2015 when they got Bregman at 1.2.  

Boosted to 3rd in 2014 then dropped back to 10th in 2015 mostly as a result of their upper guys graduating to the bigs.  

True, but when the Astros joined the division, we were warned that they would be really good in a couple years.

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