Law on Canning

[jessecrall]

Considering he was generally seen as a #3 with health red flags due to overuse when drafted, this is a nice sign. Law in general's been a little higher on our top prospects than most reputable outlets...

[Docwaukee]

can I erase this before Canning's arm falls off?

[Stradling]

I think all of us would be ecstatic if he became a number 2 starter. 

[m0nkey]

Validation!

[Second Base]

It's difficult to envision someone with Canning's repertoire being anything less than a mid rotation starter. It isn't often you find someone with as much collegiate success, sitting in the mid-90s with two plus offspeed pitches and another average offering. If you do find someone like that, they typically leave the draft board in the first 5-10 picks of the first round. 

One of the better draft picks in a collection of great picks from Eppler.

[Angel Oracle]

His high AAA ERA = further proof that the AAA Halos need to move from SLC to a lower altitude?

How many innings would be safe for him to pitch across AAA and the MLB team in 2019?

[Homebrewer]

1 hour ago, Randy Gradishar said:

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I thought it might be tuna or clams.

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[ettin]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

His high AAA ERA = further proof that the AAA Halos need to move from SLC to a lower altitude?

How many innings would be safe for him to pitch across AAA and the MLB team in 2019?

I kind of think of Salt Lake as a proving grounds of sorts: If you can handle the likely ups and downs of Utah it can prepare you mentally for the Majors?

[Halodays]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

His high AAA ERA = further proof that the AAA Halos need to move from SLC to a lower altitude?

How many innings would be safe for him to pitch across AAA and the MLB team in 2019?

With that thinking, any pitcher who has had success in SLC, should be dominant when called to Anaheim but somehow it hasn't worked out that way.

[Angelsjunky]

2 hours ago, Second Base said:

It's difficult to envision someone with Canning's repertoire being anything less than a mid rotation starter. It isn't often you find someone with as much collegiate success, sitting in the mid-90s with two plus offspeed pitches and another average offering. If you do find someone like that, they typically leave the draft board in the first 5-10 picks of the first round. 

One of the better draft picks in a collection of great picks from Eppler.

I was thinking the nice thing about Canning is that he has a very high floor. Assuming health, I don't see him being anything less than a solid #3, like Heaney was in 2018. 

On the other hand, he's a pitcher - so the floor is always arm blow out. Two very high floor--and higher ceiling than Canning--guys that come to mind are Matt Moore and Mark Prior. Moore isn't done and is serviceable, but his career hasn't gone the way he was hoping eight years, when some considered hiim a better prospect than Trout. Prior is a tragedy.

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

His high AAA ERA = further proof that the AAA Halos need to move from SLC to a lower altitude?

How many innings would be safe for him to pitch across AAA and the MLB team in 2019?

I've been hoping for a more neutral AAA park for awhile.  

[Halodays]

4 minutes ago, ettin said:

I kind of think of Salt Lake as a proving grounds of sorts: If you can handle the likely ups and downs of Utah it can prepare you mentally for the Majors?

Exactly!

[DCAngelsFan]

6 minutes ago, Halodays said:

Exactly!

I dunno - breaking balls, well, "don't" in SLC - not really the best place for a pitcher fine-tuning their repertoire for a call-up to be.

 

 

[Docwaukee]

in high altitude the ball doesn't move the same.  I think it would be an easier adjustment for the players if the environments were more similar.  Especially those that shuttle back and forth.  

[Angel Oracle]

Back on the max innings question, he pitched 119 innings for UCLA in 2017, and then 113 innings in the minors in 2018.

What is a safe max innings count for him in 2019?   140?  150?  162?  

He had a really solid GB/FB ratio and K's total across the minors in 2018.   That definitely gives him excellent potential. 

[Docwaukee]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Back on the max innings question, he pitched 119 innings for UCLA in 2017, and then 113 innings in the minors in 2018.

What is a safe max innings count for him in 2019?   140?  150?  162?  

my guess is about 140 but I think they'll limit him to 5ip when hes' in the minors.  

[Halodays]

SLC would be more of a learn how to win when you know you're not going to have your best stuff.

 

[Docwaukee]

his max pitch count last year was 89 and his max ip in a start was 5.2.  He's not very pitch efficient btw.  

[Angelsfan1984]

3 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

his max pitch count last year was 89 and his max ip in a start was 5.2.  He's not very pitch efficient btw.  

So he'll fit right in?

[Docwaukee]

6 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

So he'll fit right in?

he's good though

[fwise]

Canning, his agent and the Angels floated a questionable medical report so he could fall to his hometown team.  Eppler is a savvy mofo.

[Blarg]

You have a link for that or you just making it up so sound like you have inside information?

[VariousCrap]

8 minutes ago, fwise said:

Canning, his agent and the Angels floated a questionable medical report so he could fall to his hometown team.  Eppler is a savvy mofo.

 

If you are going to make an account just to make a post like this, you better provide some sort of proof for it like a link to a story that backs it up.

[fwise]

I'm just BS'ing.  It's a conspiracy theory that I've always thought made some sense.  Canning probably could have gone in the 20's but maybe that difference in bonus money was worth the trade-off of playing for the Angels.  Especially for a guy so close to major league ready out the door.

[Angel Oracle]

28 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

his max pitch count last year was 89 and his max ip in a start was 5.2.  He's not very pitch efficient btw.  

His control (44 BBs in just 113 innings, over 3.4 BBs per 9 innings) was the one bugaboo in 2018.