What about a Cozart for Gray deal?

[Dtwncbad]

Yankees want a major league player for Gray and they also happen to need need somebody who can play shortstop until Didi gets back.

Could a simple Cozart for Gray deal make sense for both teams?

[Jay]

This guy isn't good enough to be in the Yankees rotation but he's good enough for ours.

 

[Cdaniel]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

This guy isn't good enough to be in the Yankees rotation but he's good enough for ours.

 

Check out his splits.  Gray is a pretty good pitcher outside of Yankee stadium.

[totdprods]

Can't see the Yankees being interested in Cozart, especially since he's more expensive than Gray. Fletcher would be a more realistic ask from them.

[CanadianHalo]

[Chuck]

42 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Yankees want a major league player for Gray and they also happen to need need somebody who can play shortstop until Didi gets back.

Could a simple Cozart for Gray deal make sense for both teams?

I fixed your thread title as it was a bit misleading. 

[totdprods]

Obviously, it didn't happen, but the Yankees were asking the Reds for Taylor Trammel for Gray. 

The price is high regardless.

[m0nkey]

We've had this thread before

[Hubs]

I’d actually consider Fletcher for Gray. But ya I don’t think Cozart for Gray works primarily bc Cozart has two years left and Gray one. 

[T.G.]

Fletcher is not going to fetch Gray... and Cozart is coming off an injury. Neither will get the Angels someone like Gray.  Some of you must be a lot of fun in a fantasy baseball league.

[totdprods]

It would be Fletcher plus. In no way do I think a straight one-for-one would work. 

[T.G.]

Fletcher is a nice little utility player, but he's the kind of guy Angel fans typically over value.  He's "gritty" and a "fan favorite" - but those things don't make him a great prospect or enticing trade piece.  He's a good guy to have on your team - but he's not a difference maker by any means.  I love the guy and he's fun to watch - but I also think given the additions the team has made so far, he may end up back at SLC in 2019.  I'll be pleased if he turns out to be more than what I think he is, but I'm not banking on it.

[Stradling]

That is crazy, I would not send Fletcher for one year of Gray.  

[ettin]

Some may overvalue Fletcher but there are definitely some people undervaluing him in this thread.

[Stradling]

I just look at 6 years of Fletcher and the progress he made in the minors last year.  I don’t expect him to be great, but he is a plus defender at multiple positions and I felt he could be a good little hitter.  

[TroutField]

4 minutes ago, ettin said:

Some may overvalue Fletcher but there are definitely some people undervaluing him in this thread.

For real, 5 years of club control for a potential 4 WAR player for 1 year of control for a 9 million dollar pitcher coming off a bad season, and the Yankees basically said it’s not working out so he won’t be a Yankee. They have no leverage.

[Stradling]

They have leverage in the fact that every team can use him and he only makes $9 million.

[totdprods]

8 minutes ago, TroutField said:

For real, 5 years of club control for a potential 4 WAR player for 1 year of control for a 9 million dollar pitcher coming off a bad season, and the Yankees basically said it’s not working out so he won’t be a Yankee. They have no leverage.

They might not have leverage, but Gray is talented enough that there are several teams who would be willing to pay more than David Fletcher to take a shot on Gray rebounding.

Fletcher's name is being taken way too literally in this thread...I only brought him up to counter Cozart. I can't see the Yankees having interest in Cozart making up the value in a Gray trade at all. Gray will still command a decent, young, MLB-ready prospect or player. 

If I was to really make a guess on what NYY would want from the Angels...I would guess something like Justin Anderson, & some depth like Luis Madero or Jesus Castillo.

[DMVol]

Cozart isn't going anywhere until he proves his shoulder is sound this spring....

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

They have leverage in the fact that every team can use him and he only makes $9 million.

yet nobody seems to want him.

[Stradling]

Just now, Jay said:

yet nobody seems to want him.

Jay, you are wrong.  Teams want him, but they aren’t willing to give the asking price so far.  He’s going to be traded.  

[Docwaukee]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Jay, you are wrong.  Teams want him, but they aren’t willing to give the asking price so far.  He’s going to be traded.  

yanks are getting a ton of action on him.  why not start the bidding high and work your way down if needed. 

[Docwaukee]

I wonder if the Yanks would consider a Cozart for Gray swap if they don't get Machado.  Probably not but they (the yanks) could be waiting to see what they're gonna do at the top end of the market before they trade gray.  They could obviously use an infielder.  

I wouldn't include Fletcher.  He already has positive major league value and while he's probably got a low ceiling, he still could get better and be a solid everyday player even though it's likely he'll be a util guy or super sub.  

[ettin]

2 hours ago, TroutField said:

For real, 5 years of club control for a potential 4 WAR player for 1 year of control for a 9 million dollar pitcher coming off a bad season, and the Yankees basically said it’s not working out so he won’t be a Yankee. They have no leverage.

Not sure I would call him 4 WAR but he has a high reliable floor due to his defense. If he maintains average 2B offense (about 90 wRC+) he is a low end every day player or an exceptional backup, meaning he has at least 2-3 times the value of a current Sonny Gray in terms of surplus value. Fletcher is in a gray area at the moment in terms of his value so I get why some here don't value him as much as others. He still has to prove his worth despite his solid 2018 campaign.

[Lou]

The Yankees are asking for “high-end Major League talent” in exchange for Sonny Gray, George A. King III of the New York Post hears from an official on a team interested in acquiring the right-hander.  This isn’t the first time we’ve heard of the Yankees’ steep asking price for Gray, though as King notes, it may be a while before a trade emerges unless the club is willing to lower its demands.