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1 hour ago, mulwin444 said:

Well, to be clear, I was addressing Troll Daddy's post about "I could argue it was a great offensive year but not his best" and that's it.

If people want to give it to Betts, there is not much of an argument against it from me

No that was my point. OPS and OPS+ don't matter. Only runs and ribbies.

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I have no problem with Betts winning over Trout because Betts has had an amazing season. I prefer Trout, but I wouldn't be angry if he doesn't win, not when he's not the only clear-cut candidate.

deGrom should win NL Cy Young. His season ranks up there with Pedro's 1999 in terms of total dominance. I don't care if the Mets sucked this year, that's certainly not his fault. 

Ohtani should win AL ROY because his offensive numbers are pretty eye-popping, but oh yeah, he had a pretty decent year on the mound, too (when healthy). 

Oh, and if we were considering NL MVP by WAR, guess who tops the list? Once again, it is deGrom (10.1 WAR per BB-Ref). In fact, the top four on the list are all pitchers (deGrom, Scherzer, Nola, Freeland). So it is possible that deGrom could win both NL Cy & NL MVP. But I wouldn't hate it if Christian Yelich or his teammate (Lorenzo Cain) won MVP. 

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5 hours ago, True Grich said:

Trophies are nice. Flags are better. I'm more likely to remember who won a WS in any given year as opposed to who won the MVP.  Awards are subjective to certain degree.  Championships are not.  I don't know how many, if any MVP's Bill Russell won, but I know he won 8 titles in a row and 11 overall as a Celtic.  I know MJ won a ton of MVP's, but I don't know how many exactly - but I know he won six titles.  Again... trophies are nice - flags are better.

Flags are cool, but not particularly meaningful for rating individual players (although I know every player would rather have a championship than an MVP). Jorge Posada has 5 rings, John Lackey has 3 - they're not bad players, but I don't think anyone would argue that either is an all-time great. Neither is a HOF guy (Posada already fell off the list, Lackey likely to). 

Obviously I'd love to see the Angels win a bunch of championships, but y'know what? The Angels have a player who has a higher WAR through his age 26 season than anyone in history. We don't know how he'll age, but this is arguably the best player in MLB history at this point in his career. I hope he wins a bunch of championships with the Angels, but until he does, I'm going to enjoy watching the best player I may ever see in my lifetime and root for him to be recognized as the best player each year.

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