Mass shooting in Jacksonville

[Jason]

5 hours ago, Blarg said:

That's a disengenuous argument. 

How's that? Does the motive why he shot other people really matter? Gang/drug violence is all but ignored

[Jason]

https://q13fox.com/2018/08/27/suspect-in-jacksonville-shooting-had-been-hospitalized-for-mental-illness/

Makes me wonder if HIPAA laws prevent this kind of info being put into a national database where this would come up in a background. Maybe it's because he was a juvenile at the time?

[mtangelsfan]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

https://q13fox.com/2018/08/27/suspect-in-jacksonville-shooting-had-been-hospitalized-for-mental-illness/

Makes me wonder if HIPAA laws prevent this kind of info being put into a national database where this would come up in a background. Maybe it's because he was a juvenile at the time?

Makes me wonder how he got a gun.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, mtangelsfan said:

Makes me wonder how he got a gun.

He legally purchased one in Maryland. Maryland's requirements for handgun purchases are strict. Backgrounds checks are pointless if disqualifying stuff isn't reported. 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-jacksonville-david-katz-08272018-story.html

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/HandgunQualificationLicense.aspx

 

[mtangelsfan]

Just now, Jason said:

He legally purchased one in Maryland. Maryland's requirements for handgun purchases are strict. Backgrounds checks are pointless if disqualifying stuff isn't reported. 

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/HandgunQualificationLicense.aspx

 

Crazy, another hole in the net

[Jason]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

Crazy, another hole in the net

That was why I questioned whether HIPAA laws have to be looked at. Mental illness treatment falls under that umbrella. Good luck getting the ADA and ACLU to agree with easing off of them. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

And here is where a conversation can actually be had about gun control.

And I say that as a big gun rights guy.

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

And here is where a conversation can actually be had about gun control.

And I say that as a big gun rights guy.

why only big guns?

[Rico]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

why only big guns?

All guns matter

[Lou]

25 minutes ago, Rico said:

All guns matter

seriously?

[Vegas Halo Fan]

5 hours ago, Jason said:

https://q13fox.com/2018/08/27/suspect-in-jacksonville-shooting-had-been-hospitalized-for-mental-illness/

Makes me wonder if HIPAA laws prevent this kind of info being put into a national database where this would come up in a background. Maybe it's because he was a juvenile at the time?

Mental health information is generally protected under federal privacy laws. My late father was hospitalized for depression, yet he had no problem getting a concealed carry permit in Florida.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Isn't it possible for certain diagnosis of mental issues to be uploaded to a database, but not give any more information to the government except for a "deny" status for guns?

[Jason]

9 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Mental health information is generally protected under federal privacy laws. My late father was hospitalized for depression, yet he had no problem getting a concealed carry permit in Florida.

Exactly why adding more laws will accomplish nothing

[gotbeer]

11 hours ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

Isn't it possible for certain diagnosis of mental issues to be uploaded to a database, but not give any more information to the government except for a "deny" status for guns?

Give the government an inch, and they and the lawyers will take a mile.  What starts as a simple deny status for guns will morph into profiling by the police state, deny status for other things like driving, or even going to the extreme and saying that those on the list are on medications, so they shouldn't be allowed to buy alcohol.  And you know this list will be argued as a the public needs to know, so it'll be like the sex offender registry and open for everyone to see.  Where employers and neighborhoods will conveniently deny service.

[failos]

Bring back asylums

[Thomas]

21 hours ago, Jason said:

 Good luck getting the ADA 

The American Dental Association? What about the 5th dentist?

[RallyMo]

5 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Give the government an inch, and they and the lawyers will take a mile.  What starts as a simple deny status for guns will morph into profiling by the police state, deny status for other things like driving, or even going to the extreme and saying that those on the list are on medications, so they shouldn't be allowed to buy alcohol.  And you know this list will be argued as a the public needs to know, so it'll be like the sex offender registry and open for everyone to see.  Where employers and neighborhoods will conveniently deny service.

Yep. So, naturally:

 

[Adam]

I use google search for two primary reasons. 1. To spell-check infrequently used words so as to prevent an encounter with @EnglishCop. 2. I use it like most people use it - to locate pictures of aging Asian professional males for online profile pics. 

I don't need the government involved in either scenario. 

[EnglishCop]

24 minutes ago, Adam said:

I use google search for two primary reasons. 1. To spell-check infrequently used words so as to prevent an encounter with @EnglishCop. 2. I use it like most people use it - to locate pictures of aging Asian professional males for online profile pics. 

I don't need the government involved in either scenario. 

http://grammarist.com/spelling/google-vs-google/

 

[Adam]

Yahoo it is. 

[Crampknees]

I use google 90% of the time just checking some word Blarg used.  

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 3:23 PM, Adam said:

AO would shoot up a sports memorabilia show at the Long Beach convention center

I told them to stop undervaluing my 1973 Villa Park HS basketball souvenir program, with Kevin Costner being part of the team.  

[Angel Oracle]

On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 8:02 PM, the dude abides said:

I can see AO shooting the f*ck out of his TV and Angels memorabilia, but not actual people.

 

This >>>>> Vic the Brick's mode of tv destruction. 

[Rico]

 

[Adam]

I just mass shot shit all over my downstairs toilet