Some info help

[stormngt]

Does anyone remember the trade package the Angel's offered for Miguel Cabrera?  If I recall, the Marlins accepted the trade but backed out before it was finalized.   I was debating a friend if mine who the Angel's were offering.

I thought it was Santana, Kendrick Adenhart, wood, and Mathis.

[failos]

I remember how that trade could've saved Nick's life.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, stormngt said:

Does anyone remember the trade package the Angel's offered for Miguel Cabrera?  If I recall, the Marlins accepted the trade but backed out before it was finalized.   I was debating a friend if mine who the Angel's were offering.

I thought it was Santana, Kendrick Adenhart, wood, and Mathis.

I think it was that minus Santana.  I could be wrong though.  And quite frankly none of us really know, just the rumor of what it was.

[Dick B Back]

11 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Does anyone remember the trade package the Angel's offered for Miguel Cabrera?  If I recall, the Marlins accepted the trade but backed out before it was finalized.   I was debating a friend if mine who the Angel's were offering.

I thought it was Santana, Kendrick Adenhart, wood, and Mathis.

How appropriate that wood is not capitalized.

[Docwaukee]

ask adam

[failos]

2 minutes ago, calscuf said:

I remember Mathis was the sticking point.

you're a good man cals. not a dick or douche.

[Second Base]

There wasn't an official package IIRC. There were names that were on the table. Brandon Wood, Howie Kendrick, Ervin Santana, Nick Adenhart, Joe Saunders and Reggie Willits.

The story goes, they had a deal in place before the Marlins backed out and started asking for more, which sent Arte over the edge because he'd already been on the phone with Cabrera's agent, negotiating an extension which was part of the deal. 

I think the deal was Wood, Santana, Adenhart and Willits.

The Tigers put in a last second bid that included both Cam Maybin and Andrew Miller, as well as taking Dontrelle Willis' contract offf their hands.

The Marlins called Moreno and wanted Kendrick and Saunders added into the deal while taking Adenhart out of it. Moreno was irate, but accepted that was the deal, but they didn't want to lose Willits because of the financial crunch they'd be under after the Cabrera extension. They needed an inexpensive starting LF and leadoff batter.

As the story goes, Reggie Willits was the player the Angels wouldn't add in the deal; and in itself, the failure is ironic only because Moreno would raise payroll higher for Wells, Pujols and Hamilton but was at the time unwilling to spend on MCab. Meanwhile, Willits would end up being a mediocre at best 4th OF.

Now I don't know how much of that is true, but it paints a poor picture of Moreno and serves as a reminder of two lessons...

1. Prospects are not superstars. If you can land a superstar for years at the cost of a couple of high end prospects, you do it. Even if it's Jo Adell. 

2. There's no substitute for a generational talent in his mid 20's. Not a generational talent in his mis-30's, not a good player at 32, not even an MVP at 33. You just can't recreate that magic, no matter how much you spend.

[failos]

Just now, calscuf said:

I’ve recently been informed you are not and I’m not supposed to talk to you and your many fake names.

ok. dickhead.

[Angelsfirst]

It’s funny, if we would’ve taken on Dontrelle’s contract maybe that deal would’ve gotten done. I know they were desperate to unload it. Plus, if I’m not mistaken it was a pretty nice package of prospects from Detroit. 

[failos]

Just now, calscuf said:

Don’t get mad at me.  I didn’t say these awful things.  I’m risking my safety and freedom even talking to you.

your mammy and daddy told you not to talk to me. I guess I'll be on my way.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, calscuf said:

Don’t get mad at me.  I didn’t say these awful things.  I’m risking my safety and freedom even talking to you.

I warned you. 

[Angel Oracle]

Williamsport Willits?????

Really?  Really?  Really?  Really?