Gameday Thread: 7/24 White Sox @ Angels

[Lou]

41 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

That's the argument of a 4 year old. And I like the idea of defaulting to "they're smarter than you" when you have no argument of your own.

you like it because you're not as smart as they are 

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

It's either him or Valbuena. They both suck.

#TaylorWardSucks #WhoIsMattThaiss #AnaheimAintCubaJMF

[fan_since79]

Speaking of Ohtani, what happened to Ohtaniland?

He last posted on July 6th. That's not like him to be gone.

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

That's the argument of a 4 year old. And I like the idea of defaulting to "they're smarter than you" when you have no argument of your own.

How about this for an argument.  They are paid a hell of a lot more money so I trust their decisions over the emotions of dumbass fans on the internet! Your view that it is stupid is your opinion.  Those paid for their expertise disagrees with you.

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Kevinb said:

I can guarantee you I wouldn’t have signed Cozart to a 3 year contract or Pujols to a 10 year contract at 32. Wouldn’t have signed GMJ to a contract etc So you’re saying there’s a shot at being a GM?

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

[Ray McKigney]

Sucks that Ohtani's not in the lineup, but at least Valbuena isn't either. I just hope Sosh pinch hits Ohtani before Valbuena if we're behind in the late innings. 

[Tank]

24 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Speaking of Ohtani, what happened to Ohtaniland?

He last posted on July 6th. That's not like him to be gone.

he's on vacation

 

in matsuiland...

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, NachoPop said:

Jefry Marte - Last 30 Games  .172 / .213 / .345. Why is he in the lineup again?

Because he hits better than Ohtani against lefties. 

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I know that's their reasoning, because its been said on here ad naseam. You repeating it doesn't somehow enlighten people.

The fact of the matter is that it's a stupid ass reason to sit one of your most talented players on your roster.

Dude he sucks against lefties yet you think that’s a bad reason to sit him against lefties?  

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, CanadianHalo said:

People actually still watch this crap?

It’s contributions like this that this place needs.  Well done.  

[robblin17]

27 minutes ago, stormngt said:

How about this for an argument.  They are paid a hell of a lot more money so I trust their decisions over the emotions of dumbass fans on the internet! Your view that it is stupid is your opinion.  Those paid for their expertise disagrees with you.

I wonder what percentage of other teams would be playing Marte/Valbuena over Ohtani if they were in the same position as the Angels?

[robblin17]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Because he hits better than Ohtani against lefties. 

Also, El Mang needs days at DH.

But, in reality, Ohtani should be getting as many at-bats as possible regardless of L/R with where the team is at. We are pretty much into developmental games at this point. This is more or less the Angels putting on a front that they actually feel they have a chance to make the postseason. Or maybe they do feel they can make the postseason, which is another problem in and of itself. 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, robblin17 said:

I wonder what percentage of other teams would be playing Marte/Valbuena over Ohtani if they were in the same position as the Angels?

I wonder if the Angels had a player not named Ohtani, hitting .167 against lefties while slugging a robust .238, whether or not people would be clamoring for that person to get more starts against them. 

[robblin17]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I wonder if the Angels had a player not named Ohtani, hitting .167 against lefties while slugging a robust .238, whether or not people would be clamoring for that person to get more starts against them. 

But it is Ohtani and he has shown to be an extremely talented hitter. Players don't start as finished products. Why not get him AB's now to not only find out what he might be able to do over a longer stretch, but also whether he will need to be platooned in the future? We already know what Marte is and that is a journeyman and overall pretty shitty/average baseball player. Whereas Ohtani could be the complete opposite. 

[NachoPop]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I wonder if the Angels had a player not named Ohtani, hitting .167 against lefties while slugging a robust .238, whether or not people would be clamoring for that person to get more starts against them. 

A player of his talent with that few AB's to draw your numbers from? I certainly hope so

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

2 hours ago, Dochalo said:

he looked absolutely horrible yesterday.  they'll mix in some ab's vs lefties here and there, then after the deadline he'll see more and more.  

He had a HR. There were worse hitters yesterday.

[Docwaukee]

3 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

He had a HR. There were worse hitters yesterday.

not vs. a lefty.  he looked horrible in the that ab.  

[GrittyVeterans]

42 ABs isn't enough to give up on someone as a full time player. 

I do think Ohtani could benefit from playing either winter ball in Venezuela or Arizona Fall League and just getting a ton of reps against lefties all off season

[rottiesworld]

25 minutes ago, robblin17 said:

I wonder what percentage of other teams would be playing Marte/Valbuena over Ohtani if they were in the same position as the Angels?

They would not even be on a mlb team, Maybe on a little league and still would suck

[Docwaukee]

1 minute ago, GrittyVeterans said:

42 ABs isn't enough to give up on someone as a full time player. 

I do think Ohtani could benefit from playing either winter ball in Venezuela or Arizona Fall League and just getting a ton of reps against lefties all off season

I would wager a fair amount he's not gonna play winter ball.  

[GrittyVeterans]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

I would wager a fair amount he's not gonna play winter ball.  

Doubt he will too, but I don't think it would be a bad idea for him. Doesn't have to be anything strenuous. Just getting reps in.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

42 ABs isn't enough to give up on someone as a full time player. 

I do think Ohtani could benefit from playing either winter ball in Venezuela or Arizona Fall League and just getting a ton of reps against lefties all off season

Who says they gave up on him?

[UndertheHalo]

He definitely won’t play winter ball or in Arizona.  

[NachoPop]

Weren't his Japanese splits pretty even? Thought I read that somewhere pre season but haven't found again

[GrittyVeterans]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Who says they gave up on him?

Well you obviously know what I mean...they're giving Jefry Marte at bats over him at this point in time...I'd say as of right now that's a fair indicator that he won't get many chances against lefties this season.

Jefry Marte isn't in this clubs plans for the future. Why give him these at bats?