Would you trade Jo Adell for Noah Syndergaard?

[Stradling]

Just now, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Not the point I was making. Just because deGrom is 30 is in no way a reason he won't be a quality Cy Young candidate type pitcher for the duration of his contract.

Which is fine, but the duration of his contract is three years.   Then a free agent at 33, right around the time pitchers decline or break down.  

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Which is fine, but the duration of his contract is three years.   Then a free agent at 33, right around the time pitchers decline or break down.  

2 more after this year, he's a FA in 2021. So we would have him 2019 & 2020. I would rather trade 2 or 3 lesser prospects anyway.

[Mark68]

30 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Meyer?

Personally, I still see Meyer as another Andrew Miller. Tall dude, not sure of where his pitches are going, very little success as a starter. 

But with his stuff, I can see him being the type of reliever Miller is--come in and put out fires and hold leads.

Same initials...too many similarities.

[totdprods]

It would be pretty much unprecedented, but, why the eff not...what would it take to get both? Or even one of Matz/Wheeler instead?
Could the Halos eat some massive amount of money such as (not counting remaining '18 $$$ owed) Wright's remaining ~$27m, Bruce's ~$28m, or Cespedes' ~$60m?
Frazier is due $9m, Vargas $9m, and Swarzak $8.5m next year as well.

Adell, Marsh, Jones, one of Canning/Suarez, and/or one of Heaney/Skaggs, for Syndergaard, deGrom, and Wright's $35m remaining?

Obviously it'd be a massive hit to the farm, but it'd be a hell of a Hail Mary for the rotation for '19. 

deGrom, Syndergaard, Skaggs, Ohtani, Heaney, Barria....

(Just so you know I think it's nuts. Just wanted to throw something new into the mix. To address the rotation I think I'd rather nab Jose Urena on the cheap for a couple decent prospects, or turn two of our relievers into another Jaime Barria-type prospect from Atlanta or Philly and kick tires on Corbin this winter.)

 

[Dick B Back]

Everytime I read “trade Adell and...” I cringe. 

Just stop it! I want him and Trout in the outfield together.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

To improve their chances next year the Angels need to do something to bring in ML proven talent.  That doesn't mean you gut the farm or make a trade just to make a trade but  for deGrom or Syndergaard I'd take that chance for the right package.  That said it sounds like the asking price is quite high as of right now  https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-trade-rumors-roundup-mets-unlikely-to-deal-aces-phillies-eye-relievers-indians-nab-hand/

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

37 minutes ago, Dick B Back said:

Everytime I read “trade Adell and...” I cringe. 

Just stop it! I want him and Trout in the outfield together.

Either Adell climbs thru the minors really fast or Trout signs an extension. 2020 would will the absolute earliest I think it could happen.

[Dick B Back]

37 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Either Adell climbs thru the minors really fast or Trout signs an extension. 2020 would will the absolute earliest I think it could happen.

I’m looking at the Trout extension.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 minute ago, Dick B Back said:

I’m looking at the Trout extension.

Really hope you're right .

[Dick B Back]

10 minutes ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Really hope you're right .

I hope I am too.

[bloodbrother]

3 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

Meyer?

Probably for the best for not only him but for the team to move him to the pen full time once he returns. He's battled shoulder injuries for most of his career up to this point and still doesn't really have a reliable 3rd pitch. He can be a pretty devastating reliever with his FB/curve alone

[bloodbrother]

Syndergaard missed most of last season with an injury too.He's a stud but I wouldn't trade Adell for him

[UndertheHalo]

1 hour ago, bloodbrother said:

Syndergaard missed most of last season with an injury too.He's a stud but I wouldn't trade Adell for him

This is the shit I’m talking about.  Snydergaard is as bright a talent as there is pitching wise in MLB.  It still doesn’t make sense to me to trade an everyday player for a pitcher.  It just doesn’t.  The risks are just so significant.  Particularly if you’re talking about a top prospect like Adell.  

Maybe if you’re stacked with talent like the Padres or the Braves or White Sox and can spare a prospect it’s something to consider.  The Angels are not stacked. We can’t afford to trade off 2 or 3 or more top 10 prospects for a pitcher that impacts the team once every 5 games and who stands a significant chance of experiencing significant time out due to injury.  We just don’t have the organizational depth for this stuff. 

Edited July 21, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[maximus p]

20 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

This is the shit I’m talking about.  Snydergaard is as bright a talent as there is pitching wise in MLB.  It still doesn’t make sense to me to trade an everyday player for a pitcher.  It just doesn’t.  The risks are just so significant.  Particularly if you’re talking about a top prospect like Adell.  

Maybe if you’re stacked with talent like the Padres or the Braves or White Sox and can spare a prospect it’s something to consider.  The Angels are not stacked. We can’t afford to trade off 2 or 3 or more top 10 prospects for a pitcher that impacts the team once every 5 games and who stands a significant chance of experiencing significant time out due to injury.  We just don’t have the organizational depth for this stuff. 

I would like to change my vote to no...

thank you 

[Slegnaac]

I would LOVE to have a legitimate #1 starter.  However, this team seriously lacks offensive fire power that can consistently score runs.  Either Adell comes up and provides that offense, or they need to trade him for offense.

[TroutAdell]

Even if the Angels wentvall in on a guy like Thor or DeGrom the Angels could not match packages like The Padres, Dodgers, Braves, Phillies and Yankees put together. The Angels are too many players away to give up 3-5 top prospects for a starting pitcher. 

[beatlesrule]

I would now.  He's on the DL so he'd fit in with this team perfectly. Instant chemistry!

[hangin n wangin]

Adell looks like he’s going to be special and we don’t have to worry about his arm falling off his body like we do pretty much every Angel pitcher. I’m in the keep Adell camp. Guy is going to be a stud.

[eligrba4ever]

Only if Noah's arm was permanently shot to heck.