The "Poor Mike Trout" perception & reaction

[T.G.]

It doesn't matter... let's say the Angels win it all next year.  The same people pushing the same tired narrative will say he's leaving because he's already won here.  Now he can go and try and win one for the Phillies or whoever...

The circumstances may change, but the narrative won't.

[nate]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

We have a new GM, a better farm, and will have a new manager going forward. Plus Arte is still willing to open his checkbook.

I agree with the farm, but while they come up, some of the better pieces will be departing.

Plus we all know that Scioscia is going to get extended.

[mtangelsfan]

Just now, nate said:

I agree with the farm, but while they come up, some of the better pieces will be departing.

Plus we all know that Scioscia is going to get extended.

Which better pieces?

[Ohtaniland]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

and then he goes on to say he doesn't think that will happen here.....................................

you have that link, right Claude?

If Trout decides to leave it will be a very sad time for many. It will also be a very happy time for some other fan base. Life goes on. 

[fan_since79]

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

We have a new GM, a better farm, and will have a new manager going forward. Plus Arte is still willing to open his checkbook.

Haha, don't count on that as guaranteed.

 

[nate]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

Which better pieces?

Simmons, Trout and Skaggs.

[Angel Oracle]

I'm looking forward to 2020.   Potential roster?

Rengifo 2B, Simba SS, Adell RF, Trout CF, Upton LF, Ohtani/? DH, Thaiss 1B, Machete C, Ward 3B

Utility guys: Fletcher, Hermosillo, new guy for DH/?, backup catcher

Rotation:  Ohtani, Skaggs, Canning, Heaney, and Barria or Suarez with the other as 6th starter on call at AAA?   Backed up by Castillo.   Richards and Tropeano are health ?'s.

Bullpen:  Whoever is acquired as closer, whoever is acquired as key set up guy, Parker, Anderson, Ramirez, maybe Alvarez, plus ?

I love the power (Adell, Trout, Upton, Ohtani, and Thaiss), speed (Rengifo, Adell, Trout, Ohtani, and Ward), and OBP (Rengifo, Simba, Trout, Ohtani, Thaiss, and Ward) in the lineup.

Now, how to acquire the closer and key set up guy without losing too much?  

 

[Angel Oracle]

30 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I think he "Likes" being around family where he grew up, but that doesn't mean he doesn't love being in California better. 

I mean I have family and friends in So. Cal but I prefer living in the Pacific Northwest by a ton! There's no way I'm going back to the concrete jungle. 

I do go visit once or twice a year though. 

He has it perfect. Spend the offseason where it should be fall and winter (So. Cal doesn't get those seasons), go hunting, hangout with family, then live in beautiful sunny So. California from March-Oct when the weather is just perfect, with so much to do. 

Also, you think his family doesn't die to come out and visit Mike during the spring and summer? Jersey is a hot mess and can be humid AF in the summer. 

This!

And he can well afford a beach house here, and a big house with acreage in NJ.   Not to mention paying airfare for relatives to come out here to visit during the season  

[mtangelsfan]

6 minutes ago, nate said:

Simmons, Trout and Skaggs.

Since we are discussing Trout I will leave him out of it.  Why would the other two leave?

[nate]

Just now, mtangelsfan said:

Since we are discussing Trout I will leave him out of it.  Why would the other two leave?

Because they will be free agents and why would they stay on a team that can't win.

Baseball seems to have the lowest team loyalty of any major sport.

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Because they will be free agents and why would they stay on a team that can't win.

Baseball seems to have the lowest team loyalty of any major sport.

You are using circular reasoning there nate.  If Trout stays do you think they leave?

[Lou]

seasons are overrated 

[nate]

1 minute ago, mtangelsfan said:

You are using circular reasoning there nate.  If Trout stays do you think they leave?

Trout staying has nothing to do with them choosing to stay or leave.

[mtangelsfan]

1 minute ago, nate said:

Trout staying has nothing to do with them choosing to stay or leave.

But winning or losing might?  Why would they leave if the minor leagues are stacked?

[The Dude]

I dont understand this notion that the Angels are somehow wasting the "Trout years". Have those that are complaining forgotten already how they got in this position? Reagins, Dipoto, Hamilton, Pujols, No trable assets for years, Ridiculous amount of pitching inuries, etc. I mean this was a long line of bad decisions and shitty luck.  Its not going to be a quick fix.

[nate]

11 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

But winning or losing might?  Why would they leave if the minor leagues are stacked?

MT, you have followed free agency just as much as I have, players have little to no loyalty for their team.  They go for either winning or money or both.  Weaver is the only Angels player I can think of that left money on the table to stay with his team.

[mtangelsfan]

Just now, nate said:

MT, you have followed free agency just as much as I have, players have little to no loyalty for their team.  They go for either winning or money or both.  Weaver is the only Angels player I can think of that left money on the table to stay with his team.

This is true, but you aren't allowing for the Angels to replace Simmons and Skaggs with players like them.

The future for this team looks brighter than it has for a long time.  I think if Ohtani and two other pitchers had stayed healthy this wouldn't even be a discussion.  

[Angel Oracle]

20 minutes ago, Lou said:

seasons are overrated 

Not to me, the weather is very nice here, but it can get boring being like this year round.    Doesn't mean I want to see hurricanes, tornadoes, large hail, or blizzards though.     

[Angel Oracle]

5 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

This is true, but you aren't allowing for the Angels to replace Simmons and Skaggs with players like them.

The future for this team looks brighter than it has for a long time.  I think if Ohtani and two other pitchers had stayed healthy this wouldn't even be a discussion.  

And also having a solid closer and setup man

[Ohtaniland]

7 minutes ago, artesmustache said:

here's a quote from Trout to himself: "unfuckingbelievable that I have to play with some of these clowns every night"

“I got on base four facking times last night and these clowns couldn’t drive me in.”

[nate]

26 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

This is true, but you aren't allowing for the Angels to replace Simmons and Skaggs with players like them.

The future for this team looks brighter than it has for a long time.  I think if Ohtani and two other pitchers had stayed healthy this wouldn't even be a discussion.  

Sure that is a possibility, but realize that they have to replace those two, plus all the schmucks on the team now.

[eligrba4ever]

Poor Mike Trout??? More like Poor Bryce Harper. Poor Bryce sacrificed his facial hair just before his team faced the NYYs, who frown on facial hair. Signal by Poor Bryce that he hopes they pay him $400M longterm? His erratic offense so far may be a bigger signal they might not. Poor Bryce.

No pity party for either Mike or Poor Bryce.

[mtangelsfan]

2 minutes ago, nate said:

Sure that is a possibility, but realize that they have to replace those two, plus all the schmucks on the team now.

This is true but I prefer to look at it optimistically.

[UndertheHalo]

I hate that this is starting to snow ball into a story in the national media.  F*ck*ing hate it. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Not to me, the weather is very nice here, but it can get boring being like this year round.    Doesn't mean I want to see hurricanes, tornadoes, large hail, or blizzards though.     

so what you're saying is that you don't like seasons. 

to quote one of the greatest orators of our time:

" I like seasons, too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones "

- Daniel Tosh