Valbuena Needs to Go

[failos]

Hopefully an honorable umpire will eject this coward for flipping his bat.

[DMVol]

If we drop out of contention, it would be a crime for him to take AB’s away from Fernandez and maybe Fletcher.....

[GrittyVeterans]

4 hours ago, The Boogie Man said:

He was good in the 2nd half of last year, so I understand bringing him back and seeing if he can replicate his .866 OPS from the second half of last year.  Hopefully they don’t keep him around long enough to see if he does that again in the second half of this year.

They gave him a shot, I’m fine with that. Even though I disagreed with it

what I don’t like (and I know we agree on this one) is how long the leash is for this player compared to other guys. His overall numbers weren’t good last year. I understand what you’re saying about seeing if he could sustain his strong 2nd half but the end of May should have been his leash. We’re almost in July now.

his underlying numbers are as bad as his slash line. He’s not walking much and striking out more than anyone on the team. There’s no bad luck involved on this one, he’s just trash

if he could field his position well (like Kole) it would be less of a problem. But he sucks there too

[Angelsfan1984]

I honestly thought he was going to have a bounce back year, but the bat flips are down right moronic. He doesn't deserve to be taking playing time from anyone. Where's Rougned Odor when you need him.

[Griffey's Corner]

It's funny but Valbuena has been performing in 2018 exactly like his whole career.  His lifetime batting average is .227. He has hit .216 this year. 2 extra seeing eye singles. Over his career he has averaged 3 HR's every 100 at bats.... same thing he is doing this year. As far as Eppler & company are concerned he is meeting expectations. He is exactly who they thought he was. Why would they cut him for that?

 

Now why he was ever signed for $8 million a year in the first place.... I will never know???

 

 

[T.G.]

He helps keep the team hydrated.

[Angelsfan1984]

3 minutes ago, True Grich said:

He helps keep the team hydrated.

Well hes doing a bad job considering the number of torn UCL's.

[T.G.]

Just now, Angelsfan1984 said:

Well hes doing a bad job considering the number of torn UCL's.

So... another reason to DFA him.

[John Taylor]

4 hours ago, failos said:

Hopefully an honorable umpire will eject this coward for flipping his bat.

Fake News! That cowardly bat keeps trying to flip away from Luis Valbuena

[totdprods]

Very small sample size for Fernandez, but...

Fernandez: .276/.276/.345/.621, 73 OPS+
Valbuena: .216/.267/.335/.602, 67 OPS+

He's gonna have to start hitting and walking some if he's gonna fulfill our dreams of displacing LV.

[Angelsfan1984]

7 minutes ago, Curse of Rex said:

Don't let this thread or the admins distract you from the fact that this franchise has not won a single playoff game since Rex left.

well he'd still be here if he could stay clean

[Angelsfan1984]

12 minutes ago, Curse of Rex said:

Meanwhile the Royals have been to two World Series and won one with Rex leading the way

[Adam]

I agree

[Angel Oracle]

6 hours ago, Adam said:

I agree

Not the same as Lou doing it 

[Dick B Back]

3 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Not the same as Lou doing it 

I agree.

[Dtwncbad]

Valbuena and Calhoun popping homers.

I should be happy but I can't help worry that a tiny surge could just keep the Angels from from making changes that need to be made.

No I do not root for them to stink.  But I very much want these two roster spots improved.

I have 0% confidence at this point that Valbuena is worth a roster spot going forward.

I have about 20% confidence Calhoun is the right guy going forward.

[Jay]

52 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Valbuena and Calhoun popping homers.

I should be happy but I can't help worry that a tiny surge could just keep the Angels from from making changes that need to be made.

No I do not root for them to stink.  But I very much want these two roster spots improved.

I have 0% confidence at this point that Valbuena is worth a roster spot going forward.

I have about 20% confidence Calhoun is the right guy going forward.

I have 0% confidence that one home run from Calhoun will affect Eppler's judgement one way or the other.

[Dtwncbad]

I don't think one homer will change his strategy either.  But would two?  Three in the next six games?

I will make my point an entirely different way.  If Calhoun and Valbuena could demontrate beyong any doubt that the are capable of producing now, that doesn't fully solve the problem for me.

And that is because they have also now demonstrated beyond any doubt that they are also capable of being really bad for really long periods of time.

There needs to be a realistic range of acceptable performance.

When your established range now includes what we have been witnessing, I think it is time to go another direction.

[Dtwncbad]

When Simmons or Upton go 0-9 over two games are you worried?

Now that we have seen the REAL downside to Valbuena and Calhoun, how do you feel when you see them go 0-9 over two games?

Are you worried you are facing 6 weeks of misery?

[Dick B Back]

If anyone has watched Kole since his return and doesn’t see the difference (even on outs), they should put the bong down.

[Mark68]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 4:15 PM, True Grich said:

He helps keep the team hydrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOH4gB15qYI

[Angel Oracle]

That was a fresh breath of air last night.   Now, don't go back to being .600 OPS Valbuena, muchas gracias.