Nats trade for Herrera

[Stradling]

16 minutes ago, floplag said:

well shit why bother at all then right?  

Yes, that is exactly what everyone is saying.  We should all just quit.  Or maybe it is about using resources for longer term players and not a guy that will be a free agent in 3.5 months. 

[floplag]

Just now, The Boogie Man said:

Yes, that is exactly what everyone is saying.  We should all just quit.  Or maybe it is about using resources for longer term players and not a guy that will be a free agent in 3.5 months. 

and wasting the season, great plan.  count me out 

[mulwin444]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

See I don’t see it as that dire. I think Anderson and Parker both suitable for 7th and 8th inning roles.  Alvarez is also solid. 

Wish I had your confidence.  Currently, there is no one I'd trust with a lead in this BP...Anderson has issues with control, Parker has issues with extra basehits, both have blown multiple saves this year.  They are good for middle relief fodder at best 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

and wasting the season, great plan.  count me out 

Bye.  

[UndertheHalo]

1 minute ago, 2020worldseries said:

We would prbly have to give up jam Jones + 2 mid/low level for someone with 2.5 years control

Even this is acceptable and if that’s all they would do I would do it.  The Angels need to improve the team rapidly.  Only doing in the offseason isn’t good enough. 

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

 

Guitierrez and Perkins are both top 20 prospects in the Nationals system. I do not know where they would be ranked if in our system or who their equivalents are.

Leon Rivas, Brennon Lund and a throw in not in our top 50.  

[nando714]

Eh

like @Angel Oracle said offseason target now 

[mulwin444]

 

2 minutes ago, floplag said:

and well be out of the race by then with this pen.  

Well, luckily he can still make a trade over the next month and a half

[UndertheHalo]

5 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Wish I had your confidence.  Currently, there is no one I'd trust with a lead in this BP...Anderson has issues with control, Parker has issues with extra basehits, both have blown multiple saves this year.  They are good for middle relief fodder at best 

It’s just really tough to find 3 lock down guys.  I think Anderson hasn’t played his best baseball.  I see Parkers slow improvement since the beginning of May as a positive sign.  We can only do what we can do.  Adding one of the best like Brad Hand helps a ton.  

Whats also great about Hand is that SD doesn’t uncommonly use him for 4 + outs.  If Anderson is having a rough night that’s a possibility with him.  He’s perfect for us really.   

Problem is he’s perfect for everyone.  Eppler needs to do something before everyone is aggressively seeking relievers.  No doubt they already are.  We’ve had 2 decent trades now in the last couple of weeks.   If it costs us Johmani Jones so be it.  We need a closer.  Hand gives us one. 

Edited June 19, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Dtwncbad]

The 28 GMs not involved should all be fired.  They were clearly sleeping.

[mulwin444]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

It’s just really tough to find 3 lock down guys.  I think Anderson hasn’t played his best baseball.  I see Parkers slow improvement since the beginning of May as a positive sign.  We can only do what we can do.  Adding one of the best like Brad Hand helps a ton.  

Whats also great about Hand is that SD doesn’t uncommonly use him for 4 + outs.  If Anderson is having a rough night that’s a possibility with him.  He’s perfect for us really.   

There are a lot of teams out of it right now.  I think we can grab a sure thing at closer and maybe someone under the radar for pitching 7th or 8th.  

[2020worldseries]

3 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

Leon Rivas, Brennon Lund and a throw in not in our top 50.  

Perkins 2015 2nd rd pick OF

Kevin Gutierrez 23 yo out of Dominican in AA batting 274

yohanse 17 yo out of Dominican 

[mulwin444]

Holy crap those guys are nothing special.

 

Gives me hope something can still get done.

[m0nkey]

Nats should trade for a new RF while they're at it

[2020worldseries]

16 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Holy crap those guys are nothing special.

 

Gives me hope something can still get done.

This trade sets the bar low so if billy looks to make a trade that’s a positive..

[Ohtaniland]

19 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

The 28 GMs not involved should all be fired.  They were clearly sleeping.

Except the teams that didn’t need him. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

RPs are always in demand...IMO, its worth picking them up if available over the winter just as trade bait over the season.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Off topic, but I still hope they trade for Moustakas. Shouldnt cost a ton, and lets us know if hes even a fit in the offseason.

[AngelsFaninGA]

Meh, the season is already getting away from us. No real point trading for a rental. 

[floplag]

32 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Bye.  

cant wait to see those in favor of this plan cry likes babies when we lose Trout. 

[UndertheHalo]

15 minutes ago, mulwin444 said:

Holy crap those guys are nothing special.

 

Gives me hope something can still get done.

 

12 minutes ago, 2020worldseries said:

This trade sets the bar low so if billy looks to make a trade that’s a a positive..

Honestly if you look at the trades that have gotten done recently.  Very good young players that came with club control have been moved for prospect packages that don’t exactly blow you away.  I’m talking everyday players.  Look at what Ozuna and Yellich returned.  Fine packages but nothing insane.  

I mean we saw Shelby Miller go for a huge package but that seemed to serve as warning to buying teams.  It was a strange deal. No one is throwing away prospects like that now.  Look at the deadline last year.  We didn’t see massive prospect currency transactions. 

Hand is great but he’s a reliever.  This is something that is do able. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

cant wait to see those in favor of this plan cry likes babies when we lose Trout. 

And I can’t wait to see how not trading for Herrera is going to make a difference in 2.5 years.  

[rafibomb]

 

 

[floplag]

1 minute ago, The Boogie Man said:

And I can’t wait to see how not trading for Herrera is going to make a difference in 2.5 years.  

one is a minor blip on the radar, the other is franchise altering.  if you cant see that theres little left to say. 

[UndertheHalo]

9 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Off topic, but I still hope they trade for Moustakas. Shouldnt cost a ton, and lets us know if hes even a fit in the offseason.

I feel like Moustakas is going to be given away.  He’s tailed off quite a bit tho since mid May.  

As far as bats go, I’ve come to think we should go after a RF or see if we can snag a 1b and start phasing out Pujols.  That needs to happen sooner then later.  I don’t believe the narrative that Scoiscia would be a problem with that.  But that narrative does exist.  If it proves true, then he can be shown the door.  The Pujols era needs to end ASAP. 

Edited June 19, 2018 by UndertheHalo