General NHL Talk 2018-19

[Pujols4MVP]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

It still unnerves me a bit. I still remember Anaheim fleecing the Oilers for Pronger.

Pronger pulled a Lebron, he wanted to go to Anaheim to play with Niedermayer & Beauch to form the most stacked D of the late 2000s.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, Scioscia4MVP said:

Pronger pulled a Lebron, he wanted to go to Anaheim to play with Niedermayer & Beauch to form the most stacked D of the late 2000s.

BTW.  Different topic.  But I believe this is the last year that Pronger is on someone's books.  I think it might be Arizona. 

[Pujols4MVP]

6 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

BTW.  Different topic.  But I believe this is the last year that Pronger is on someone's books.  I think it might be Arizona. 

Wow, that explains why Arizona is suddenly spending.

I heard Calgary is going to get Maroon, they are officialy the most Goon team in the league: Neal/Tkachuk/Giordano/Maroon.

Its very Brian Burke to put together that group for the Flames. Reminds of when the Burke era Ducks had Pronger/May/Moen/Shawn-Thornton/Fedoruk/O'Brien/O'Donnell as the Goon-est team of the NHL. It seemed like every playoff series in 07 had Pronger or May getting suspended lmao

[arch stanton]

The Avalanche can offer Ottawa back the first rounder they got for Duchene as a starter for a  Karlsson deal and maybe add Barrie to the package. From everything I’ve read they had more interest in John Carlson but either would be a good get

Edited July 3, 2018 by arch stanton

[gotbeer]

37 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

The Avalanche can offer Ottawa back the first rounder they got for Duchene as a starter for a  Karlsson deal and maybe add Barrie to the package. From everything I’ve read they had more interest in John Carlson but either would be a good get

I'm wondering if Ryan is still part of the Karlsson trade.  4 year $7.25 million per.   The rumor is Karlsson is 8 years/$10 million per.  That's $18.25 million per year for a team to absorb.

Now Perry has 3/$8.625 million.  And he's from a small town in between Toronto and Ottawa.  

Maybe the Ducks being involved isn't that far fetched.  Would a Kase/Rico/Ryan line be better or worse than a Kase/Rico/Ritchie line?  

Edited July 3, 2018 by gotbeer

[Pujols4MVP]

22 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

I'm wondering if Ryan is still part of the Karlsson trade.  4 year $7.25 million per.   The rumor is Karlsson is 8 years/$10 million per.  That's $18.25 million per year for a team to absorb.

Now Perry has 3/$8.625 million.  And he's from a small town in between Toronto and Ottawa.  

Maybe the Ducks being involved isn't that far fetched.  Would a Kase/Rico/Ryan line be better or worse than a Kase/Rico/Ritchie line?  

What if then the Ducks flip Ryan with retention to Carolina who needs to reach salary floor ?

[Keener]

On 7/1/2018 at 6:54 AM, gotbeer said:

Talk about leveraging a fluke year.

 

I read a weird stat on pensburgh.

Perron has played on SIX teams, but has only ever signed contracts with the Blues.

[gotbeer]

24 minutes ago, Keener said:

I read a weird stat on pensburgh.

Perron has played on SIX teams, but has only ever signed contracts with the Blues.

LOL.  Some guys can't take a hint.  

[gotbeer]

3 hours ago, Scioscia4MVP said:

What if then the Ducks flip Ryan with retention to Carolina who needs to reach salary floor ?

Floor is $58.8 million.  According to Capfriendly, Teams at the floor currently are surprisingly at the bottom, the Winnipeg Jets at $52.6 million, Rangers at $55.7, and devils at $56.4.  So it would seem that this season, it doesn't look like the floor will be an issue.

[gotbeer]

3 hours ago, Scioscia4MVP said:

What if then the Ducks flip Ryan with retention to Carolina who needs to reach salary floor ?

How sad is it, that even the Canes are making moves and the Duckies are taking a nap. 

 

[Pujols4MVP]

2 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Floor is $58.8 million.  According to Capfriendly, Teams at the floor currently are surprisingly at the bottom, the Winnipeg Jets at $52.6 million, Rangers at $55.7, and devils at $56.4.  So it would seem that this season, it doesn't look like the floor will be an issue.

Sweet, we can flip Ryan to NJ instead after getting him in the Karlsson trade, he was born there.

Devils can put together a NJ line with Palmier/Ryan on the wings.

[Pujols4MVP]

Looks like the Stars may get Karlsson lol. Dallas needs more Shutdown D types than an All offense type who won't help them reduce their GAA as well as better goalies, Bishop is declining very fast. Karlsson on their roster boosts their offense but doesn't do enough to help prevent other teams from scoring, they need a guy like Hjmarlson & Cole because they already got a younger Karlsson in Klingonberg.

Teams like San Jose, Anaheim, Tampa do a better job at limiting other teams from scoring (even with Anaheim's down year in failing to limit shots they have more shutdown guys than Dallas) that adding a guy like Karlsson will do alot for them.

For Vegas it'd be their first franchise Defensemen who would be a leader on the team & their first superstar.

Although if Wild Bill keeps scoring goals like he did last season he'll be one too.

[gotbeer]

NHL Rumors: The Montreal Canadiens and Max Pacioretty

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Amir Basu: Dennis Bernstein was on TSN 690 and said that Canadiens had agreed on a six-year contract, $48 million contract extension with Pacioretty but the discussions fell apart, and they were going to trade him to the LA Kings but that deal hadn’t been finalized.

 

Damn.  When did the piggy banks get raided.  These free agent signings are stupid high.  And while Max had a string of 60 point seasons.  Giving someone a rumored $8 million a season after a 37 point season.  

[Keener]

Kind of sounds like Montreal is just flipping coins.  Agreed, but fell apart seems to be their thing.

[gotbeer]

Karlsson to tampa not a done deal.  Looks like Vegas is stirring the pot.  I'm sure it has something to do with including Ryan, which Tampa can't do.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 7/1/2018 at 6:54 AM, gotbeer said:

Talk about leveraging a fluke year.

 

IMO Perron's season was a product of the system that he was in. Now he is going to return to St. Louis, where he was nothing special, and he will return to being nothing special.

[Tank]

On 7/5/2018 at 6:48 AM, gotbeer said:

NHL Rumors: The Montreal Canadiens and Max Pacioretty

 

Damn.  When did the piggy banks get raided.  These free agent signings are stupid high.  And while Max had a string of 60 point seasons.  Giving someone a rumored $8 million a season after a 37 point season.  

Yikes. Can you imagine what Gretzky, Dionne, Coffey, Lemieux, Kerri, and Messier would be worth in today's dollars? 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

[gotbeer]

I love the financial side of things.  Kind of fascinating.  BTW.  Calolfornia.

https://www.capfriendly.com/post_tax_calculator/9500000

[gotbeer]

Panarin and Pacorretti.  With Karlsson still dangling in the wind.

NHL trade rumors: Canadiens looking to deal Max Pacioretty 'as soon as possible'

Meanwhile the Ducks decided that overdue retirements are more important.

  

[gotbeer]

It must be nice to have a semi competent GM who's not asleep to trade away bad contracts.

Marian Hossa's contract to Coyotes in multiplayer deal

To Phoenix

• Marian Hossa  3 years, $5.275 million LTIR
• Vinni Hinostraza 24 YO Center, 50 GP,  25 Pts, +5, 54.5/53.4, 2 years $1.5 million then RFA 
• Jordan Oesterle 26 YO Defenseman, 55 GP, 15 Pts, -11, 52.4/51.1, $650k then UFA
• 2019 3rd round pick from Chicago

To Chicago

• Marcus Kruger, 28 YO Center, 48 GP, 6 Pts, -6, 54/52.4, $2.775 million then UFA
• MacKenzie Entwistle, 18 YO RW, OHL 49 GP, 38 Pts, +16
• Jordan Maletta 23 YO Center, AHL 28 GP, 4 pts, +1
• Andrew Campbell 30 YO Defenseman, AHL 60 GP, 6 pts, +7
• 2019 5th round pick from Phoenix

So the Hawks pretty much get $2.5 million in cap relief, a pretty good prospect and give up a young centerman that Phoenix can ruin.

[gotbeer]

That's a big spread in arbitration numbers.

 

[gotbeer]

Holy RFA inflation.

 

[gotbeer]

So no matter how much we complain about the Ducks, Kings, Knights, or any other team.  There is Ottawa.  Who just signed Stone to a one year$7.25 million deal.  That means as of right now, Karlsson, Stone, and Duchene are going to be UFA's next season.  

[Tank]

Its probably pretty tough to be an Ottawa fan these days.