Trade Target: OF Michael Conforto

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, TroutField said:

Trading 4 prospects for an OF that the cellar dwelling Mets are about to demote and pinch hit for in the 9th yesterday would be I’ll advised, in my opinion. 

 

Especially when the farm is finally solid again. 

You must have not read my first post.  I said I like the idea of trading for him but not 4 for 1.  I would like to see if we can get him cheaper.

[Lou]

4 players for Conforto, and 2 of those are Marsh and Thaiss?

To quote the great orator @nando714 , no way. 

 

[Ohtaniland]

Watched Conforto play yesterday and he looked just like Calhoun, a lost ball in high weeds.

[nando714]

31 minutes ago, Lou said:

4 players for Conforto, and 2 of those are Marsh and Thaiss?

To quote the great orator @nando714 , no way. 

 

His mom has a nice rack, but That’s all about he has going for him right now 

[arch stanton]

36 minutes ago, nando714 said:

His mom has a nice rack, but That’s all about he has going for him right now 

Whose mom? Conforto? Marsh? Thaiss? Or Nando?

[nando714]

12 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

Whose mom? Conforto? Marsh? Thaiss? Or Nando?

Conforto

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

Trading Marsh would be depleting the farm.  

I would consider Jones at most. 

Current OF prospects: Hermosillo (ETA 2018), Adell (ETA 2020/21), Marsh (ETA 2020/21), Deveaux (2021/22), Knowles (2021/22) and Adams (2021/22)

Current Angels OF: Upton (signed through 2022), Trout (signed through 2020), Calhoun (signed through 2019). 

I'm not sure if you knew about all those OF beforehand, but if you didn't now you do, and now you realize that trading away one high upside OF prospect does not deplete the farm.  ?THis isn't the Dipoto ran Angels, we actually have prospects now. 

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

Current OF prospects: Hermosillo (ETA 2018), Adell (ETA 2020/21), Marsh (ETA 2020/21), Deveaux (2021/22), Knowles (2021/22) and Adams (2021/22)

Current Angels OF: Upton (signed through 2022), Trout (signed through 2020), Calhoun (signed through 2019). 

I'm not sure if you knew about all those OF beforehand, but if you didn't now you do, and now you realize that trading away one high upside OF prospect does not deplete the farm.  ?THis isn't the Dipoto ran Angels, we actually have prospects now. 

Dude stop.  Deveaux, Knowles and Adams are question marks, until they aren’t.  

[Second Base]

3 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Dude stop.  Deveaux, Knowles and Adams are question marks, until they aren’t.  

That logic would suggest that Marsh is a question mark then.  And if Marsh is a question mark, then you should have no problem trading him for a young proven all-star like Conforto. 

Deveaux isn't any more of a question mark than Marsh is.  Just because you haven't seen him play doesn't mean scouts haven't. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

That logic would suggest that Marsh is a question mark then.  And if Marsh is a question mark, then you should have no problem trading him for a young proven all-star like Conforto. 

Deveaux isn't any more of a question mark than Marsh is.  Just because you haven't seen him play doesn't mean scouts haven't. 

Ok where are they playing now?  A? AA? 

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Ok where are they playing now?  A? AA? 

Marsh is one developmental year ahead of Deveaux. 

[UndertheHalo]

26 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

Current OF prospects: Hermosillo (ETA 2018), Adell (ETA 2020/21), Marsh (ETA 2020/21), Deveaux (2021/22), Knowles (2021/22) and Adams (2021/22)

Current Angels OF: Upton (signed through 2022), Trout (signed through 2020), Calhoun (signed through 2019). 

I'm not sure if you knew about all those OF beforehand, but if you didn't now you do, and now you realize that trading away one high upside OF prospect does not deplete the farm.  ?THis isn't the Dipoto ran Angels, we actually have prospects now. 

You’re nuts man.  Hermosillo and Marsh in the same sentence ?!  One has way higher upside.  By all means trade Hermosillo for Conforto.

Edited June 10, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Stradling]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

Marsh is one developmental year ahead of Deveaux. 

Ok, Scotty, but Marsh has performed and performed well against higher competition.  To the best of my knowledge Deveaux hasn’t even played in A ball yet.  

[UndertheHalo]

And @Scotty@AW.  I do know who all those guys are.  Thanks for the additional illumination tho. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[Second Base]

1 minute ago, UndertheHalo said:

And @Scotty@AW.  I do know who all those guys are.  Thanks for the additional illumination tho. 

Well, I think if you knew them as well as I do, you probably wouldn't be debating this right now. 

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Ok, Scotty, but Marsh has performed and performed well against higher competition.  To the best of my knowledge Deveaux hasn’t even played in A ball yet.  

Actually Deveaux hasn't played a single inning of pro ball yet.

This is dumb.

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Ok, Scotty, but Marsh has performed and performed well against higher competition.  To the best of my knowledge Deveaux hasn’t even played in A ball yet.  

Ok BM, but Marsh is currently batting a buck-93 in advanced A Ball and is hitting .259 on the season in the low minors, and Deveaux is faster and impressing everyone and their mother at instructs. 

See how we can use different colors to paint a different picture. 

[Second Base]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Actually Deveaux hasn't played a single inning of pro ball yet.

This is dumb.

Instructs is still pro ball TD. Just because it doesn't show up in a convenient box score does not mean for one second that he isn't playing against other professionals everyday. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

Ok BM, but Marsh is currently batting a buck-93 in advanced A Ball and is hitting .259 on the season in the low minors, and Deveaux is faster and impressing everyone and their mother at instructs. 

See how we can use different colors to paint a different picture. 

Yes, so one has performed against competition and the other has played well in practice.  

[Second Base]

2 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Yes, so one has performed against competition and the other has played well in practice.  

My bad, Marsh is hitting .256 in the low minors and is striking out at a concerning rate. 

But yeah, if we trade him, then our farm is completely depleted.  You must be right. 

[Stradling]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

My bad, Marsh is hitting .256 in the low minors and is striking out at a concerning rate. 

But yeah, if we trad him, then our farm is completely depleted.  You must be right. 

Once again, you have been one of the guys pimping Marsh the most, but because we disagree trading him (and three others you have been pimping) for a 25 year old hitting .219, now you are downplaying his ability.  

[totdprods]

I still wish we dealt prospects for Yelich and flipped Calhoun+ for Corbin or Happ. 

:pours out last remaining drops of gasoline onto thread:

[tdawg87]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

Instructs is still pro ball TD. Just because it doesn't show up in a convenient box score does not mean for one second that he isn't playing against other professionals everyday. 

Scotty, instructional league is basically Spring Training for young prospects. He doesn't have a box score because they probably aren't even keeping score. Deveaux will be in rookie ball in 2019 while Marsh is in A+/AA. That's more than a year.

Your trade proposal is a dud. That's my opinion. You don't give up one of your top prospects (who is also a top 75 prospect overall) for a dude sucking ass in the NL East. I'm aware of Conforto's potential but the Mets would be selling low on him. Why buy high?

Also, losing Marsh wouldn't deplete the system but it takes a big hit. He's our 2nd best prospect, 3rd at worst. That's not even mentioning the other guys you are proposing giving up. 3 of our top 10 prospects for a guy about to be demoted by the Mets doesn't sound very smart to me.

[Second Base]

11 minutes ago, The Boogie Man said:

Once again, you have been one of the guys pimping Marsh the most, but because we disagree trading him (and three others you have been pimping) for a 25 year old hitting .219, now you are downplaying his ability.  

EXACTLY!!!!!

That's my point.  You can paint Marsh different colors to make a different picture.  I freakin' love the way Brandon Marsh plays baseball.  

And if I'm willing to trad him and more for Conforto, that should tell you something. 

[tdawg87]

Just now, Scotty@AW said:

And if I'm willing to trad him and more for Conforto, that should tell you something. 

It tells us you're crazy.

We all know you have a lot more knowledge of the younger guys than the average poster here, but that doesn't mean you are always right.