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The Official TROUTstanding Thread

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1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Why does Trout wait by his phone? He should just hang out on AngelsWin.

Technically, there's a guy who follows him around carrying his phone for him.  I believe his name is @tdawg87

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Does anyone else notice that there are no players atop The WAR/700 list that have played the majority of their careers in the modern era (post 1980) outside of Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols and Trout? Bonds and A-Rod will forever have an asterisk by their names, and Pujols isn't that high on the list.

Trout is the only player in the modern era that has dominated his competition in a manner that players from previous eras did.

Baseball has just gotten so much harder. Everything down to the analytics, and player development, it's near impossible for players to separate themselves anymore. Everyone is too damn good. 

Think of the greats not on this list. Griffey, Cabrera, McGwire, Suzuki, etc...

And Trout is 27% better than the second best player if this decade. 

Simply put, we've never seen a player like Mike Trout before, and it's a safe bet that we never will again in our lifetimes.

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On 12/31/2019 at 1:59 PM, Second Base said:

Does anyone else notice that there are no players atop The WAR/700 list that have played the majority of their careers in the modern era (post 1980) outside of Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols and Trout? Bonds and A-Rod will forever have an asterisk by their names, and Pujols isn't that high on the list.

Trout is the only player in the modern era that has dominated his competition in a manner that players from previous eras did.

Baseball has just gotten so much harder. Everything down to the analytics, and player development, it's near impossible for players to separate themselves anymore. Everyone is too damn good. 

Think of the greats not on this list. Griffey, Cabrera, McGwire, Suzuki, etc...

And Trout is 27% better than the second best player if this decade. 

Simply put, we've never seen a player like Mike Trout before, and it's a safe bet that we never will again in our lifetimes.

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As my chart above shows, Trout led the decade with 73.4 over the next position player,  Buster Posey at 53.0, by a  sizeable margin: 20.4 WAR. 

Here's a fun stat: the last position player to lead a decade with 20 or more is....Honus Wagner in the 1900s (90.4 over Nap Lajoie at 67.2). As great as Babe Ruth was in the 1920s (108 fWAR!), Rogers Hornsby was almost as good, with the second best decade in MLB history, according to fWAR (97.0).

Also, only five position players have been among the top five best players according to fWAR within two decades:

Barry Bonds: 3rd in 2000s, 1st in 1990s

Mike Schmidt: 3rd in 1980s, 5th in 1970s

Willie Mays: 1st in 1960s, 3rd in 1950s

Stan Musial: 2nd in 1950s, 3rd in 1940s

Tris Speaker: 5th in 1920s, 2nd in 1910s

I think Trout has a real chance of becoming the sixth, if he simply manages to average close to 5 WAR per year.

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7 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

hey, here's a crazy idea, MLB Stats - how about putting stats from the same categories for each of these years so we can compare like areas? 

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On 12/31/2019 at 1:59 PM, Second Base said:

Does anyone else notice that there are no players atop The WAR/700 list that have played the majority of their careers in the modern era (post 1980) outside of Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols and Trout? Bonds and A-Rod will forever have an asterisk by their names, and Pujols isn't that high on the list.

Trout is the only player in the modern era that has dominated his competition in a manner that players from previous eras did.

Baseball has just gotten so much harder. Everything down to the analytics, and player development, it's near impossible for players to separate themselves anymore. Everyone is too damn good. 

Think of the greats not on this list. Griffey, Cabrera, McGwire, Suzuki, etc...

And Trout is 27% better than the second best player if this decade. 

Simply put, we've never seen a player like Mike Trout before, and it's a safe bet that we never will again in our lifetimes.

Very true. Only 5 of the top 25 players in the WAR/700 played an MLB game in the 80's or more recent. It is skewed to players who competed in an era where there were few players or no players who were African American or from other countries.

Mike Trout is doing all of this in an era where there is more competitive inclusion and balance than in any era in the history of baseball.

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