Ohtani's next start will be pushed back due to "workload management"

[Taylor]

29 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Fatigue tends to be a significant factor when it comes to sports injuries..   At least that's what the people who make their living in sports medicine say. 

@Kevinb is an expert on sports injuries.

[Biergott]

Would absolutely be awesome if he tears the cover off the ball the whole series and shows the world that pressure doesn't affect him. 

How cool would it be (though I know it's not going to happen and prefer him as a starter) if in one of the games the Angels have a slight lead and they surprise everyone by using him to close the game that he had already hit in and he shut down the top of their lineup?    Can you imagine what the energy would be like around it?

 

[kevinb]

1 hour ago, Warfarin said:

That's quite an overreaction there.  Having him skip one start = quit pitching?  Man, lol.

The dude barely pitched last year.  He is embarking on an endeavor that virtually no player has done in many, many decades (star pitcher + star hitter).  Our management has done a fantastic job of balancing things out.

I do not know his innings limit, nor does anyone else here.  We can reasonably guess maybe somewhere in the low 100s.  

My only argument is it feels like they are skipping the Yankees because it’s the Yankees in Yankee stadium 

[kevinb]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Fatigue tends to be a significant factor when it comes to sports injuries..   At least that's what the people who make their living in sports medicine say. 

So again a month into the season these pitchers were fatigued? And that’s what caused the Tommy John injury?

[kevinb]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

No, it's not. 

Pitch him once every 2 weeks.

[kevinb]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

@Kevinb is an expert on sports injuries.

Injuries happen due to fatigue yes but not every injury happens do to fatigue. Pitchers get Tommy John injury a month into the season and you’re claiming it was due to fatigue. Hayward destroyed his leg what 8 minutes into playing basketball for the Celtics. Must have been fatigue? 

[Lou]

5 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Pitch him once every 2 weeks.

Who said he wasn't pitching for 2 weeks ?

[kevinb]

Just now, Lou said:

Who said he wasn't pitching for 2 weeks 

I’d put money on it he doesn’t pitch again till Sunday that’s the schedule they have him on. 

[Dick Enberg]

Three righties going for the Yankees this weekend.. Angels starters throwing well lately. they just want his bat in the line up. Mondays game is in detroit with a lefty throwing. Othani will sit Monday and throw Tuesday.

[kevinb]

Who are the guys who have to get Tommy John so far this season on the Angels and how many innings have they thrown? 

[kevinb]

3 minutes ago, Dick Enberg said:

Three righties going for the Yankees this weekend.. Angels starters throwing well lately. they just want his bat in the line up. Mondays game is in detroit with a lefty throwing. Othani will sit Monday and throw Tuesday.

So their management is putting him back 2 days?

[kevinb]

2 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Does anyone remember the character "Chuck" from Wonder Years?  Someone here reminds me of him...

Why because I disagree with the reasons ? Sounds appropriate for name calling 

[Dick Enberg]

2 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

So their management is putting him back 2 days?

personally, I don't think it has anything to do with work load...

[kevinb]

Just now, Dick Enberg said:

personally, I don't think it has anything to do with work load...

Friendly gentleman’s bet? I say he doesn’t pitch till next Sunday and you’re saying Tuesday?

[kevinb]

1 minute ago, True Grich said:

Who's calling anyone names?

You know what you’re doing stay classy. No reason to do that. It’s all Baseball talk anyway 

[Dick Enberg]

9 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

Friendly gentleman’s bet? I say he doesn’t pitch till next Sunday and you’re saying Tuesday?

yes I am. and sure, why not! he'll pitch Tuesday

[Warfarin]

51 minutes ago, Kevinb said:

My only argument is it feels like they are skipping the Yankees because it’s the Yankees in Yankee stadium 

I know you feel that way, but that is not necessarily the case.  I would like for him to get periodic rest.  The dude's rep is he actually elevates himself for big games, i.e., a big game pitcher.  They aren't afraid to pitch him against good teams.  He's already started against both Boston and Houston.  He only struggled against Boston because of that blister.  Don't worry man, trust the process.

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, Warfarin said:

I'd say we need Ohtani the hitter more than Ohtani the pitcher currently.  Give him some time off on the mound, let him keep mashing for us offensively.  Nothing wrong with this.  Barria takes his spot, and the way Barria is pitching, I am okay with this.

I'd just keep all 6 pitching up here, limit their starts but also allowing them to pitch a little deeper into games.   The bullpen at this rate will be gassed by August.

[Lou]

1 hour ago, Kevinb said:

I’d put money on it he doesn’t pitch again till Sunday that’s the schedule they have him on. 

How much?

[rafibomb]

New York media already echoing the "coward" narrative for Ohtani. I hope he rakes this weekend......

[T.G.]

Don't read the twitter feeds... they're going nuts in NY

[Stradling]

5 hours ago, Kevinb said:

So he won’t pitch till the Sunday after. This is all because of how hot he came out against Boston and couldn’t locate his pitches. They don’t want all the pressure to be on him in that stadium. Guy pitches once a week this is garbage. 

No it’s not because of that

[rafibomb]

4 minutes ago, True Grich said:

Don't read the twitter feeds... they're going nuts in NY

too late... i can't unsee the arrogance and stupidity

[Warfarin]

Keep in mind he also threw a season high 110 pitches in his last start.  So they "pushed" him further than he had before.  I know we are used to seeing that number eclipsed often in the past, but times are different now.  I am sure this was a factor, too.

[techjunkie714]

I think it's a great decision.  They will have his bat for all three games vs just two as batter/pitcher.  Also, they won't have another Monday off until July. Mostly likely they are transitioning him to pitch Weds to take advantage of the Thursdays they have off in June.