Middleton has damaged UCL - Seeking 2nd opinion

[DMVol]

1 hour ago, Sherlock31 said:

Well we don't have a lot of choices, he's either gonna be the closer or the setup man, neither is good.

True that...for now anyway....

[Troll Daddy]

Seriously feel bad for the kid 

[Biergott]

Suck suckity suck suck suck

cant we catch a break with our pitching?  It’s always the hot arms that go down.  I wasn’t even a Middleton fan coming in to the season but he was getting the job done and becoming our best option.  Far better than Shitthebedrosian.  He needs to step up now.  I’d love to see someone step up and grow a pair and start intimidating batters.  Need some fire in the pen.

Wish I had the energy to search out total pitching injuries by team over the past few years.  We seems snakebit the past 3-4.  Curious if it’s a broader issue though and not just us.  I only pay attention to the Angels though I guess.

[IEAngelsfan]

Man, I was just starting to acquire a taste for red hot Cheetos....

[Fish Oil]

7 hours ago, calscuf said:

No, a sprain is a tear.  A strain is like a pull.

Nope. A strain is acute damage to a muscle or tendon. A sprain is damage to a ligament. Grade 1 is a stretch. Grade 2 is a partial tear. Grade 3 is a full tear.

[Lou]

30 minutes ago, Fish Oil said:

Nope. A strain is acute damage to a muscle or tendon. A sprain is damage to a ligament. Grade 1 is a stretch. Grade 2 is a partial tear. Grade 3 is a full tear.

For those that prefer this in simple English, allow me . . . 

cals is a dumbass. 

[CubsFan]

8 hours ago, floplag said:

one wonders, could he be a closer at this point?
At this point i might take a flyer.  Hes got the mentality and was still in the 90s last season with Chi

He was a mess for us last year.  We couldn't even use him as a starter in the playoffs last year and he bombed as middle relief and we were desperate for middle relief in last year's playoffs.

[CubsFan]

Troy Percival.  Why don't they make them durable like that anymore.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

15 hours ago, Ohtani&Trout said:

Likely won't be back until 2020, unfortunately. Eppler better be on the phone. This team needs 2-3 reliable relievers, at least. 

If he hurries and gets his TJ surgery, he could be back by next years All Star break.

[Torridd]

15 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

 

Takes 2 to tango though. Hard to acquire good talent this early in the season even from teams who clearly stink. They aren't gonna be in sell mode in mid-May

It's got to be done. We just don't have any reliable arms at the closing end. It's important this is fixed quickly as it also takes pressure off the guys who are placed in this position right now. 

[Torridd]

12 hours ago, floplag said:

one wonders, could he be a closer at this point?
At this point i might take a flyer.  Hes got the mentality and was still in the 90s last season with Chi

I don't think he has the stuff.

[floplag]

1 hour ago, Torridd said:

I don't think he has the stuff.

likely true, then again most here say the same about what we have out there, who knows 
its a reach of epic proportions, i know, but it is what it is 

[floplag]

5 hours ago, CubsFan said:

He was a mess for us last year.  We couldn't even use him as a starter in the playoffs last year and he bombed as middle relief and we were desperate for middle relief in last year's playoffs.

reliever is a different mentality, he could be one of those guys resurrected by it. 
his numbers first inning were porr which sepals against it but he got stronger the more he threw.  perhaps if he just let it all go. 
i dont know, im desperate. 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Ace-Of-Diamonds said:

If he hurries and gets his TJ surgery, he could be back by next years All Star break.

Or back by September if doing the injection?

 

[Dick B Back]

6 minutes ago, artesmustache said:

Everyone please exit the Lackey train. The guy is done. He sucked last year and is probably a sloppy drunk pushing 3 bills by now.

And the chicken, don’t forget the chicken!

[John Smith]

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MEDICAL UPDATE: After initial diagnosis and second opinion, it has been recommended that Keynan Middleton undergo UCL reconstruction. Keynan will meet with team doctors this evening to discuss timeline and formal plan of care. We will update with more information when appropriate

 

[Taylor]

I feel bad for Keynan. He's only 24, so hopefully he'll have a successful career ahead of him when he returns.

[UndertheHalo]

Shit news for Keynan.  On the bright side I guess it’s still fairly early in the season.  We may be able to see him again next year.   Hope for the best for the guy. 

[Warfarin]

6 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Shit news for Keynan.  On the bright side I guess it’s still fairly early in the season.  We may be able to see him again next year.   Hope for the best for the guy. 

Yeah, if he undergoes the procedure within the next few weeks, seems likely he'd be back for the latter half of 2019.  He doesn't have to rebuild his innings in the same way a starter would.  

Still, feel terrible for the dude.  He was having a great start and earned the closer's role.  Alas... next man up.

[Billy_Ball]

On 5/15/2018 at 6:34 AM, artesmustache said:

Everyone please exit the Lackey train. The guy is done. He sucked last year and is probably a sloppy drunk pushing 3 bills by now.

And watching his old Mr. Ed videos.

[beatlesrule]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/keynan-middleton-tommy-john-surgery-angels-closer.html

[Dick B Back]

Sucks.

[T.G.]

Middleton exceeded my expectations.  This is definitely a blow to the bull pen.  I was expecting him to not go the surgery route, but I guess its telling that he is.  Hoping for a full recovery.

[zenmaster]

Did guys pre 1980s or whatever just need TJ but not get it and somehow pitched through it? Or is it due to more guys throwing breaking balls etc. that is causing all these surgeries?

[Inside Pitch]

4 hours ago, zenmaster said:

Did guys pre 1980s or whatever just need TJ but not get it and somehow pitched through it? Or is it due to more guys throwing breaking balls etc. that is causing all these surgeries?

They threw 88, didn't, barely ever threw sliders and most were done by age 32..   

Check the CY Young votes for the 70s -- youll be amazed how many of them broke down early...    More guys break down now sure, there are also more guys throwing, more guys pushing their bodies to the limits and lots more media coverage than in the 70s.