Kinsler

[Ohtaniland]

Is he just another fading veteran that rolled into the Angels retirement home.

-0.1 WAR wtf?

 

 

[Angel Oracle]

Not sure if the 10 days missed messed with his timing, or if this is just about the end of MLB road for him.   Definitely not re-sign him material at this point

[DMVol]

Ask again in August....

[UndertheHalo]

Yes.  And it’s not all that surprising.  Silly to expect that a 36 y/o is going to have a bounce back season.  The guy is on the downward slope.  Couple of key points imo.  The price that the Phillies wanted for Hernandez was ridiculously high.  Why wouldn’t it it be for a cost controlled young 2b that has demonstrated above average potential at the major league level ? Eppler probably figures to get a SP at some point in season.  Kinsler is low risk and allows Eppler to make that trade without completely gutting the farm system.   If Kinsler approaches his numbers from last year at all diminished as they are.  It’s still a huge improvement for the Angels over what we’ve had.  It’s still probably a decent bet that he gets close to comping last year.  I just hope the plan isn’t to bank on Jahmai Jones being our 2b in the near term.  

Anyway, the Angels problem right now isn’t Kinsler on his own.  It’s the collection of guys who are really struggling.  We need something out of more then 3 guys.

Edited April 28, 2018 by UndertheHalo

[fan_since79]

So it looks like our offense this year will consist of Trout and Ohtani, and maybe Simmons. And Ohtani will only be hitting three days a week.

Second wild card might be a stretch.

 

Edited April 28, 2018 by fan_since79

[UndertheHalo]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

So it looks like our offense this year will consist of Trout and Ohtani, and maybe Simmons. And Ohtani will only be hitting three days a week.

Second wild card might be a stretch.

 

Well. We can and should expect Upton and Cozart to be good.  Especially Upton.  He’s not old.  There’s no reason for him to struggle long term.  That guy is essential to the Angels success.  

[Ohtaniland]

It’s so typical of our organization to just grab hold of the past. It’s like this is what Eppler was seeing when Kinsler became available.

 

[tdawg87]

[Troll Daddy]

I was clamoring for Howie but I’m in no way worried about Kinsler in April. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

It's only April and he did miss some games. If he continues to struggle we have JMF in AAA waiting. I'm personally worried about good old Nobuena and the fact he's getting more playing time compared to Marte, who's on fire these past week!

[tomsred]

We may have two excellent second basemen in Salt Lake right now.  Cowart is leading the Bees with a .406 batting average, and Fletcher isn't far behind hitting .356.  Both are excellent defenders.  I think at some point they will find it at the major league level.  I never thought that Kinsler was anything more than a one year fill in.  Cozart is more critical to long term success because he has a significant 3 year contract.  There are a lot of guys who are hitting really well right now in Salt Lake, if some of our hitters don't pick it up (eg. Valbuena) they will eventually get replaced.  Eppler isn't afraid of making changes.

[DMVol]

7 minutes ago, tomsred said:

We may have two excellent second basemen in Salt Lake right now.  Cowart is leading the Bees with a .406 batting average, and Fletcher isn't far behind hitting .356.  Both are excellent defenders.  I think at some point they will find it at the major league level....

If he can be adequate defensively, I think Fernandez is ahead of both...his bat projects better....

[fan_since79]

3 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

I was clamoring for Howie but I’m in no way worried about Kinsler in April. 

May 1st is three days away. Start worrying.

 

[Troll Daddy]

28 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

May 1st is three days away. Start worrying.

 

That’s your job isn’t it

[Taylor]

So many guys are slumping right now. Kinsler isn't going to hit .226 this season, and Didi Gregorius isn't going to finish 2018 with a 1.400 OPS. 

[IheartLA]

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-it-time-to-worry-about-ian-kinsler/

this was before his down 2017. looks like 34 is the cutoff age before a steep decline, lining up almost perfectly with Kinsler. Altuve's contract looks about right, ending at 34.

[GrittyVeterans]

Having to get guys like Kinsler and Cozart is a product of the damage Reagins and Dipoto did to the farm system.

 

You think we sign Cozart to a 3 year deal If we got Vlad Jr. ? Hell no

[Docwaukee]

10-3 with Cozart hitting 1st.  Kinsler comes back and everyone tanks.  

[fan_since79]

NoWINsler.

COLDzart

MaldNOnado

Slumpin Upton

Albertross Pujols

 

I know, I'm no AO. If anyone has some better ones, go ahead.

[Jason]

54 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So many guys are slumping right now. Kinsler isn't going to hit .226 this season, and Didi Gregorius isn't going to finish 2018 with a 1.400 OPS. 

I think .230 is realistic though. 

[tomsred]

On 4/28/2018 at 10:18 AM, DMVol said:

If he can be adequate defensively, I think Fernandez is ahead of both...his bat projects better....

You could be right.  I don't think second base will be an issue long term.  I am so glad Eppler has improved the farm system like he has, there is an actual future there in multiple positions.  If Calhoun can't recover long term, we have some very adequate replacements in the pipeline as well.

[Torridd]

On 4/28/2018 at 11:58 AM, Troll Daddy said:

I was clamoring for Howie but I’m in no way worried about Kinsler in April. 

And he's not a long-term solution anyway.

[tdawg87]

Get the fuck off your slump.

[Tank]

On 4/28/2018 at 8:34 AM, DMVol said:

Ask again in August....

seriously. can we stop making conclusions in april and may, folks? players go through streaks, make adjustments, etc. 

[tdawg87]

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

seriously. can we stop making conclusions in april and may, folks? players go through streaks, make adjustments, etc. 

The season is over Tank.