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[UndertheHalo]

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, nate said:

I mean that you think that Hillary paid for Russian bots.  Also you believe the Seth Rich conspiracy... unbelievably hilarious.

You like the make stuff up in your head and decide it's fact.

I said Hillary bought the Democratic ticket and actually ran unnapossed since Saunders was just a stooge candidate.

Why is it you can read a sentence and come up with something so ridiculously absurd and then double down on stupid and tack on even more crap not related to the discussion. It's like you gone all ANAHEIMBOB in the JC PoliSci board.

Edited February 17, 2018 by Blarg

[nate]

You should work on your sentence structure.

Also, as it turns out, the DNC chose the only candidate that wasn't propped up by a foreign government that was trying to disrupt the country.

[Blarg]

Yeah, sure thing, Bob. 

Maybe you should have voted for her since it was your state that went to Trump. 

[arch stanton]

I hate to interrupt a perfectly pointless round of finger pointing but I feel like Blarg calling Nate the AnaheimBob of the spin forum has a real pot/kettle feel to it. 

 

 

[Thomas]

1 hour ago, nate said:

Also, as it turns out, the DNC chose the only candidate that wasn't propped up by a foreign government that was trying to disrupt the country.

Gary Johnson?

[Tank]

8 hours ago, calscuf said:

Don’t you have to use the meme of the Mexican girl if you are going to say “can’t it be both?”?

 

[red321]

1 hour ago, Thomas said:

Gary Johnson?

I’m not sure even his own running mate supported him

[Blarg]

I don't think he could name his running mate.

 

 

I can't.

[Lhalo]

I was totally going to vote for Hillary before a Russian bot told me not to. 

[Stradling]

24 minutes ago, LHalo said:

I was totally going to vote for Hillary before a Russian bot told me not to. 

#metoo

[Spirit]

21 hours ago, red321 said:

Either Trump is trying to hide something, or his narcissism won't allow him to accept outside forces influenced the election.

 

What were the measurable influences that Russia had on the election?

 

[Spirit]

4 hours ago, LHalo said:

I was totally going to vote for Hillary before a Russian bot told me not to. 

 

So was Nate.

 

Glen was always going to vote for himself.

 

[red321]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/mueller-probe-london-based-son-of-russian-businessman-to-plead-guilty-to-false-statements/2018/02/20/142f4d2e-164b-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_mueller-10am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d96af342c530

 

Another indictment from Mueller and co. related to the Russian investigation.

U.S. prosecutors in Mueller’s office said the case was related to former Trump 2016 presidential campaign manager Paul Manafort, who was an adviser to Yanukovych.

Add this to news that Gates is going to flip, looks like the screws are being applied to Manafort.

[red321]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-mueller-files-new-charges-in-manafort-gates-case/2018/02/22/7db99c9c-1716-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_manafort-440pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.280f7639d7c0

 

New indictments filed against Manafort and Gates

[Spirit]

He only hires the best!

 

 

[red321]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/us/politics/rick-gates-guilty-plea-mueller-investigation.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

 

According to NY Times Gates to plead guilty and cooperate

WASHINGTON — A former top adviser to Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign indicted by the special counsel was expected to plead guilty as soon as Friday afternoon, according to two people familiar with his plea agreement, a move that signals he is cooperating with the investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

[nate]

They got caught because they left a paper trail when converting a word document to pdf lol

[red321]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/special-counsel-wants-documents-trump-numerous-campaign-associates-n853386

Looks like the grand jury is asking for a document dump from the Trump Campaign and a lot of the people associated with it.

In addition to the president, the subpoena seeks documents that have anything to do with these current and former Trump associates:

Steve Bannon, who left the White House as chief strategist in August.

Michael Cohen, a personal lawyer for Trump who testified before congressional investigators in October.

Rick Gates, Trump's former deputy campaign manager, who pleaded guilty last month to conspiracy and lying to the FBI.

Hope Hicks, who resigned last week as Trump's communications director.

Corey Lewandowski, Trump's campaign manager until June 2016.

Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign manager and Gates' business partner, who pleaded not guilty to money laundering, conspiracy and making false statements last week.

Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.

Keith Schiller, a former bodyguard for Trump who left as director of Oval Office operations in September.

Roger Stone, a longtime Republican political operative and Trump campaign adviser who sources have told NBC News is the focus of investigators interested in his contacts with WikiLeaks during the campaign.

[red321]

Looks like Betsy's brother might not have been totally on the up and up when it came to testifying in front of Congress about his little outing to the Seychelles

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/erik-prince-might-want-to-shift-investments-to-private-prison-industry

The Post article and other reports suggest this Seychelles meeting was part of the effort over the course of the transition to open a backchannel between Trump and the Kremlin. The meeting was “around January 11” 2017. That is to say, 9 or 10 days prior to Trump’s inauguration.

This to me is the most tantalizing part of the whole story. Presidents don’t need back-channels to conduct discussions with foreign governments, though they sometimes use them in situations that require delicacy and deniability. What precisely was this backchannel for that it couldn’t wait 10 days? The answer seems pretty straightforwardly that someone was either in an extreme rush or that the backchannel was to transact business that had to remain secret from the US government. Given the urgency it seems that it needed to be hidden not just from the outgoing Obama administration (for which there might be some rationale) but from the entire apparatus of the US government which would report to President Trump and for which he would establish policy in just days?

[Blarg]

You read a lot of Op/Ed.

[red321]

22 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You read a lot of Op/Ed.

Ah, you wanted the original report the commentary was based on...here ya go

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-gathers-evidence-that-2016-seychelles-meeting-was-effort-to-establish-back-channel-to-kremlin/2018/03/07/b6a5fb8c-224b-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.0c49ccb518c9

[Lhalo]

Pretty much all of WaPo is Op/Ed. 

[Brandon]

I'm not big into this topic, but a really good podcast yesterday on this topic. Joe Rogan interviewed Renee DiResta who was one of the people that has done a ton of digging and investigative work on this subject. Some profound points that make a ton of sense how people were doing what they were doing.

[Lou]

an Asian won't win the presidency