FCC Giveaways

[red321]

At this point FCC probably deserves it's own thread. 

Chuck better start making nice with the major ISPs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/11/21/the-fcc-has-unveiled-its-plan-to-rollback-its-net-neutrality-rules/?tidr=a_breakingnews&hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar

Federal regulators unveiled a plan Tuesday that would give Internet providers broad powers to determine what websites and online services their customers can see and use.

The move sets the stage for a crucial vote next month at the Federal Communications Commission that could reshape the entire digital ecosystem. The agency’s Republican chairman, Ajit Pai, has made undoing the government's net neutrality rules one of his top priorities, and Tuesday's move hands a win to broadband companies such as AT&T, Verizon and Comcast.

 

 

note: linked article doesn't go into specifics on the rule changes

[red321]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/rip-net-neutrality-fcc-chair-releases-plan-to-deregulate-isps/

[gotbeer]

Not liking this one bit.  Internet is already getting too big in price, and now they are going to slow it down except to select sites?  

[mtangelsfan]

Hate this.  One more reason I don't like republican values anymore.

[Make Angels Great Again]

Terrible idea by the FCC. If they want to reduce regulations, fine, but this particular regulation should come pretty much as the last one removed if it were to be removed at all.

The argument is that the regulations stifle competition. Well, that's not really true for this one, this is pure consumer protection against monopolies that is getting wiped away. If you want to remove net neutrality regulations (which probably isn't a good idea anyway), first remove the rules that give these companies their monopolies.

[Rico]

I can't think of a reason why Republicans are voting for this other than getting a big fat check to fuck over the public.

[red321]

Former Democratic FCC chairman Tom Wheeler, who drafted the 2015 net neutrality rules and rammed them through in spite of Republican opposition, called Tuesday's move "tragic."

"The job of the FCC is to represent the consumer," he said in an interview. "If you like your cable company, you'll love what this does for the Internet, because it gives Internet service providers the same kind of control over content and price as cable operators have today."

[Jason]

Personal freedom and liberties on their way out the door

[AngelsLongBall]

Total horseshit.  But, they're also taking away:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fake-irs-scam-calls-can-now-blocked-115027987.html

[Tank]

they just want to stick a finger in every single pie, just like any other totalitarian gov't has ever done.

those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/478c3ad4-1cc0-3755-abb1-2e07bc809b7d/what-is-net-neutrality-and.html

 

Edited November 21, 2017 by Tank

[AngelsLakersFan]

If this goes through, here is to hoping that people care enough to have their municipalities put together their own ISPs and ultimately put the big guys out of business... One can dream...

[red321]

24 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

If this goes through, here is to hoping that people care enough to have their municipalities put together their own ISPs and ultimately put the big guys out of business... One can dream...

That's funny...you'll see states pass laws against this as most cable/service providers lobby the shit out of local area/states that they can't afford to invest in the infrastructure unless they are given monopolistic powers

Edited November 21, 2017 by red321

[AngelsLakersFan]

16 minutes ago, red321 said:

That's funny...you'll see states pass laws against this as most cable/service providers lobby the shit out of local area/states that they can't afford to invest in the infrastructure unless they are given monopolistic powers

That was my assumption as well.

[Taylor]

Literally no one opposes net neutrality except internet companies and the government officials whose hands their pockets are in. 

[nate]

This is exactly what the GOP and the Trump administration wants.  They can simultaneously rape Americans for more $ and control/censor the stream of information they receive.

[Make Angels Great Again]

You're kidding yourself @nate if you think this will help Trump. Comcast/AT&T etc. are hardly pro trump. They will be able to control traffic, and I guarantee it wouldnt favor Trump.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

You're kidding yourself @nate if you think this will help Trump. Comcast/AT&T etc. are hardly pro trump. They will be able to control traffic, and I guarantee it wouldnt favor Trump.

Trump appointed the FCC chairman. You're kidding yourself if you think Trump doesn't want this.

[nate]

7 hours ago, Taylor said:

Trump appointed the FCC chairman. You're kidding yourself if you think Trump doesn't want this.

Those pesky details again...

[Make Angels Great Again]

9 hours ago, Taylor said:

Trump appointed the FCC chairman. You're kidding yourself if you think Trump doesn't want this.

 

2 hours ago, nate said:

Those pesky details again...

 

He may have appointed him, but that doesn't mean he fully understands the consequences.

 

How many of these politicians do you think actually understand net neutrality? Very few.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

He may have appointed him, but that doesn't mean he fully understands the consequences.

 

How many of these politicians do you think actually understand net neutrality? Very few.

So either he's complicit, or he's ignorant about something that could have drastic implications (and therefore still complicit).

[red321]

20 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

If this goes through, here is to hoping that people care enough to have their municipalities put together their own ISPs and ultimately put the big guys out of business... One can dream...

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/

Preemption would clearly prevent states from imposing net neutrality laws similar to the ones being repealed by the FCC, but it could also prevent state laws related to the privacy of Internet users or other consumer protections. Pai's staff said that states and other localities do not have jurisdiction over broadband because it is an interstate service and that it would subvert federal policy for states and localities to impose their own rules.

[mtangelsfan]

Those pesky states and their rights.  I hate the Feds.

[Make Angels Great Again]

31 minutes ago, Taylor said:

So either he's complicit, or he's ignorant about something that could have drastic implications (and therefore still complicit).

 

It's ignorance, plain and simple.

Cons see internet regulation implemented during the Obama administration and red flags go up.

The problem is rooted in monopolies, the regulation wouldn't be necessary if competition actually existed. Our internet could be so much better it's not even funny if competition existed.

[Make Angels Great Again]

But pushing the narrative that this will somehow help Trump couldn't be further from the truth.

[Jason]

3 hours ago, Taylor said:

So either he's complicit, or he's ignorant about something that could have drastic implications (and therefore still complicit).

Yes