Chicago

[Ordos]

Here's an interesting one...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/chicago-wont-allow-high-school-students-to-graduate-without-a-plan-for-the-future/2017/07/03/ac197222-5111-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html

To graduate from a public high school in Chicago, students will soon have to meet a new and unusual requirement: They must show that they’ve secured a job or received a letter of acceptance to college, a trade apprenticeship, a gap year program or the military.

[Adam]

Stupid

[Blarg]

Interesting concept, to assure graduation you must prove you are willing to become an adult and take care of your own future. One of the reasons this is going to be shot down.

[red321]

Not sure you can dictate to people who are legally adults that they have to have a plan.

Would completely agree we should be spending more on counseling and helping high school graduates come up with a plan...whether it's college, a trade school, joining the workforce, etc. Absolutely. But certifying that has happened as a requirement for graduation...that's a big stretch.

[Tank]

62 people shot and 7 killed over the holiday weekend. maybe it's time for something a bit more extreme than the status quo . . .

[Adam]

I don't think giving a few government workers the ability to decide whether or not  someone's life plans are valid or not is the way to go. 

 

 

[Adam]

1 hour ago, Tank said:

62 people shot and 7 killed over the holiday weekend. maybe it's time for something a bit more extreme than the status quo . . .

If men aren't going to raise their children, there isn't anything you can do to stop this. 

[red321]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

I don't think giving a few government workers the ability to decide whether or not  someone's life plans are valid or not is the way to go. 

 

 

agreed

[Thomas]

Is taking a year off to find yourself considered a plan? Likely to include traveling the world on $50 and a dream?

[AngelsLakersFan]

So is the guidance counselor going to hold someone diploma because they said they were just gona keep slingin' for awhile?

[mtangelsfan]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

I don't think giving a few government workers the ability to decide whether or not  someone's life plans are valid or not is the way to go. 

 

 

Yep

[Ordos]

8 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

So is the guidance counselor going to hold someone diploma because they said they were just gona keep slingin' for awhile?

My guess is someone dealin' won't care if they have a diploma, but I could be wrong

[Kevin]

Some guys just can't catch a break

[Jason]

6 hours ago, Tank said:

62 people shot and 7 killed over the holiday weekend. maybe it's time for something a bit more extreme than the status quo . . .

Fake news Tank! It was 14 killed.

 

http://abc7.com/news/102-shot-14-fatally-in-chicago-over-july-4-holiday-weekend/2185481/

[Lhalo]

3 hours ago, Ordos said:

My guess is someone dealin' won't care if they have a diploma, but I could be wrong

Does anyone care? When was the last time you heard of anyone other than the military or a college asking for proof of a high school diploma? It's next to worthless. 

[Ordos]

Touché 

[arch stanton]

I bet all the gangbangers doing the shooting will be devastated

[Blarg]

It must be something to vacation in a city where the most profitable business are the funeral parlors on the holidays.

[Thomas]

This could make for an interesting take on a possible Ferris Bueller sequel. Perhaps a genre change?

[Jason]

1 hour ago, Thomas said:

This could make for an interesting take on a possible Ferris Bueller sequel. Perhaps a genre change?

Hopefully Ferris is well armed

[Thomas]

19 minutes ago, Jason said:

Hopefully Ferris is well armed

Makes for a better movie if he wasn't.  Using his wit and charm to escape danger. Or he gets shot dead. Kind of a win win honestly.

[krAbs]

On 7/5/2017 at 9:45 AM, red321 said:

Not sure you can dictate to people who are legally adults that they have to have a plan.

Would completely agree we should be spending more on counseling and helping high school graduates come up with a plan...whether it's college, a trade school, joining the workforce, etc. Absolutely. But certifying that has happened as a requirement for graduation...that's a big stretch.

Its not dictating, though. You don't need to have a high school diploma. That's like saying that the government is dictating that all people need to know basic math. They are just setting standards for their own schooling system.

[Adam]

22 minutes ago, krAbs said:

Its not dictating, though. You don't need to have a high school diploma. That's like saying that the government is dictating that all people need to know basic math. They are just setting standards for their own schooling system.

This isn't a private institution. It's a public one. As much as I'd still disagree with it, this seems like an issue for the voters not fuckhead bureaucrats. 

[krAbs]

22 minutes ago, Adam said:

This isn't a private institution. It's a public one. As much as I'd still disagree with it, this seems like an issue for the voters not fuckhead bureaucrats. 

Sure, absolutely. But my point is...you could use that logic for ANY public school standards, right? Like, if you don't want the government to dictate legal adults to have a plan after high school as a requirement for a high school degree, then you also shouldn't want the government to dictate legal adults to have a working knowledge of mathematics or english or whatever other subject you want them to know.

I mean....I guess my point is, in the end of the day, the government runs schools because its belief is that schools make for a "better" population of people in some way, and that the things that are taught in those schools will help the people who receive a degree from them. So, why are some things okay to have a standard for, but others not? Unless its just an issue of "schools are there to teach info, not to do what they can to ensure the success of its students," which like...I guess you can make that argument, but it seems odd.

[Adam]

They run schools to make for a consenting population.