Cowart's Big Night

[tomsred]

In Las Vegas, Cowart went 6-6 tonight including 3 doubles, 1 triple, 1 single and 1 home run.  It's the seventh time in Salt Lake franchise history that a player has hit for the cycle, and the six hits ties a franchise record.  He also had 5 RBI's, and those six hits represent 14 total bases.

I hope the guy went to a casino after the game, he might win enough to chuck baseball.

https://www.milb.com/sl-bees/news/cowarts-cycle-tops-las-vegas/c-238220000/t-196093392

 

 

[UndertheHalo]

what are the real odds that Cowart is ever anything other then a bench player ?

[ten ocho recon scout]

21 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

what are the real odds that Cowart is ever anything other then a bench player ?

At this point we should be pleased if he makes it that far

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

what are the real odds that Cowart is ever anything other then a bench player ?

0.4% star

2.4% impact player/borderline star

10.3% average starter

25.9% good platoon/mediocre starter

28.3% solid bench player

32.7% minor league journeyman/occasional call-up

[tdawg87]

4 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

what are the real odds that Cowart is ever anything other then a bench player ?

I'd take that. 

Good glove, fantastic arm, switch hitter with a fair bit of pop? Sounds like a solid bench player to me. 

That said, I hope he is the starting third baseman next year and he plays well enough to stick. 

[JustATroutFan]

He'll likely never be a star player but he can still prove critics wrong. Or he won't. A lot of players tear it up in the minors but struggle in the big leagues. Example would be Brandon Wood.

[Angel Oracle]

Does his offense style (geared more towards OBP than SLG) play better at 2B, going forward?

At the least, Pennington's superior replacement

 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

Bees' Cowart cycles in six-hit masterpiece

https://www.milb.com/milb/news/kaleb-cowart-cycles-during-six-hit-performance-for-salt-lake-bees/c-238210632/t-185364810

[Dtwncbad]

[red321]

good for him...hopefully that's not the highlight of his baseball career

[mtangelsfan]

 

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t561&player_id=592230#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL

He's been doing it all season so your post makes little sense.

[DMVol]

He needs to keep it up....force them to re-think "Eppy" and "Penny"......if he hit .400, I'm not sure anything would change....we'll see....

[Dtwncbad]

20 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

 

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=t561&player_id=592230#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL

He's been doing it all season so your post makes little sense.

I apologize.  I couldn't find an image of a blind squirrel that found a pile of nuts.

[Taylor]

It's time to either trade him or call him up. There's no reason to keep him in SLC.

[Dtwncbad]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

It's time to either trade him or call him up. There's no reason to keep him in SLC.

True.  Let's see what he has.  Did he make an adjustment that will translate to success at the majors or is this AAA success either a fluke or that even more depressing reality that some players at 25 or 26 have accummulated enough baseball experience to thrive at AAA but dont have the talent for the majors.

It's hard to not still acknowledge that this guy is a lifetime .260 hitter as a pro. . .

I want every Angel prospect to "find it" and be a star, but my optimism for this guy is smothered and squashed by his large sample history.

[stormngt]

7 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

True.  Let's see what he has.  Did he make an adjustment that will translate to success at the majors or is this AAA success either a fluke or that even more depressing reality that some players at 25 or 26 have accummulated enough baseball experience to thrive at AAA but dont have the talent for the majors.

It's hard to not still acknowledge that this guy is a lifetime .260 hitter as a pro. . .

I want every Angel prospect to "find it" and be a star, but my optimism for this guy is smothered and squashed by his large sample history.

What large sample?  He only played specifically in the majors.  And he hit well when he got any semblance of consistent at bats.

[Dtwncbad]

18 minutes ago, stormngt said:

What large sample?  He only played specifically in the majors.  And he hit well when he got any semblance of consistent at bats.

Almost 3000 at bats in the minors, with a .264 average and lots of other pedestrian yawning stats.

[totdprods]

They could very well be leaving Cowart in AAA in hopes that he puts up a big enough season that he becomes a viable prospect in trade talks too. 

[Make Angels Great Again]

36 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Almost 3000 at bats in the minors, with a .264 average and lots of other pedestrian yawning stats.

 

That's pretty much solely because of his time at AA, which is to be expected. He was a pitcher converted to a third baseman, so he is going to have a bigger adjustment than most. And AA is the biggest test of all.

 

Looking at lifetime minor league numbers out of context is pretty laughable.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

2 hours ago, red321 said:

good for him...hopefully that's not the highlight of his baseball career

Hopefully, But that is still one hell of a night no matter where you are playing! Not many even get the chance to play at that level.

Regardless enjoy the ride!~

[zenmaster]

We will call him up in September while he tears it up in AAA. He will get approximately 4 ABs per week and around 20 for the month. He will have 2-4 hits but be good defensively. He will start next season in AAA and rake where he will be called up in September.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

True.  Let's see what he has.  Did he make an adjustment that will translate to success at the majors or is this AAA success either a fluke or that even more depressing reality that some players at 25 or 26 have accummulated enough baseball experience to thrive at AAA but dont have the talent for the majors.

It's hard to not still acknowledge that this guy is a lifetime .260 hitter as a pro. . .

I want every Angel prospect to "find it" and be a star, but my optimism for this guy is smothered and squashed by his large sample history.

For 3 years now he has hit .323, .280, .321 in AAA. How many years does it take to erase a couple of bad seasons in AA 5 years ago.

[Blarg]

10 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

0.4% star

2.4% impact player/borderline star

10.3% average starter

25.9% good platoon/mediocre starter

28.3% solid bench player

32.7% minor league journeyman/occasional call-up

I'd really like to know how you came up with these numbers. 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

That's pretty much solely because of his time at AA, which is to be expected. He was a pitcher converted to a third baseman, so he is going to have a bigger adjustment than most. And AA is the biggest test of all.

 

Looking at lifetime minor league numbers out of context is pretty laughable.

What is out of context?  We all know the conversion from pitcher.  You still have to compete.  He isn't 20 yrs old.  His top ranking was about #60 and that was in 2012, when he probably got a lot of points for the "context" of being a converted player.  Now many years later, in a wider context he is nowhere to be found on top prospect lists.  Why?  I think the answer is context.  25 yr olds that finally start hitting in AAA normally are tweeners.

That's the analysis from a fair context.  But you can massage his history any way you want if you want to maintain your optimism.  That's up to you.

But I am pretty sure my opinion doesn't have a context problem.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

6 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

What is out of context?  We all know the conversion from pitcher.  You still have to compete.  He isn't 20 yrs old.  His top ranking was about #60 and that was in 2012, when he probably got a lot of points for the "context" of being a converted player.  Now many years later, in a wider context he is nowhere to be found on top prospect lists.  Why?  I think the answer is context.  25 yr olds that finally start hitting in AAA normally are tweeners.

That's the analysis from a fair context.  But you can massage his history any way you want if you want to maintain your optimism.  That's up to you.

But I am pretty sure my opinion doesn't have a context problem.

Donaldson was 27 before he hit higher than .241 and was the MVP at 29.