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Who is at fault or do we just have bad luck?


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So many of our players have gone down with injuries in the past few years where it seems inconsequential then turns into something big, then they seem to heal, come back, and get injured or "delayed" again in short order. A few examples:

G. Rich - What exactly is going on here? We here crickets, and wasn't he supposed to miss one start?

Street - Was supposed to be back awhile ago but last I heard his progress was delayed unexpectedly.

Cam - Supposed to be back but just read on twitter he "felt something" in his first outing back in minors and is taking time off to see what's up.

Skaggs - went from HE'S BACK to 60 day DL before you knew he was back and no word on what's going on really.

Tropeano/Heaney - TJs, who knows if they'll ever be back. Don't count on it.

And the rest -  Bailey, Maybin, and Trout. Here's hoping they have better luck than the rest.

 

Do we really just have horrible luck? Or is it something else like trainers, doctors, coaches, scouts not identifying players pre-disposed to issues? These last few seasons injury wise have really tested my resolve as an Angels fan.

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59 minutes ago, zenmaster said:

Do we really just have horrible luck? Or is it something else like trainers, doctors, coaches, scouts not identifying players pre-disposed to issues? These last few seasons injury wise have really tested my resolve as an Angels fan.

Its luck...   If anything they have never been more cautious or aware than they have been of late -- shit just happens.  Conversely the Angels were remarkably lucky avoiding major injuries to their SPs for a good decade.

2004 -- 3 guys with 33+ GA -- 2 guys 24+

2005 -- 4 guys with 30+ GS -- Ervin at 23

2006 -- 3 guys with 30+ GS -- Bartolo went down, Jered Weaver replaced Jeff, Saunders broke into MLB

2007 -- 4 guys with 28+ GS -- Bartolo and Saunders shared the 5 spot -- 18 GS each

2008 -- 4 guys with 30+ GS -- Lackey at 24

2009 -- 3 guys with 27+ GS -- Adenhart tragedy.   5 spot was a revolving door.  Ervin at 23

2010 -- 3 guys with 28+ GS -- the other spot totaled 34 starts, Haren replaced Saunders in the trade.  Piniero at 23

2011 -- 3 guys with 33 GS, -- 1 at 25, 1 at 24

2012 -- 4 guys with 30+ GS -- the other spot shared by Williams and Grienke

2013 -- 1 guy at 33, three guys at 24+,  you had Hanson and Blanton sucking ass but zero injuries...   Ineffective pitching was the issue.

That's a full decade where the only major arm injuries were Colon, and Escobar (a guy born without a ligament)..  

50 rotation spots over ten seasons -- 2 major injuries..

 

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The Angels are trying to tank the season so that they can have a great amateur draft, but Scioscia is doing such an amazing job that the team is hovering around .500.  No matter how they try to thwart his efforts in order to have the season go down the drain, Scioscia finds way to keep the team competitive.

Look for Scioscia to get a contract extension after this season. 

 

;)

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27 minutes ago, True Grich said:

The Angels are trying to tank the season so that they can have a great amateur draft, but Scioscia is doing such an amazing job that the team is hovering around .500.  No matter how they try to thwart his efforts in order to have the season go down the drain, Scioscia finds way to keep the team competitive.

Look for Scioscia to get a contract extension after this season. 

 

;)

It could happen ... it will deliver a blockbuster thread. 

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IP summed it up perfectly. The Angels were unbelievably healthy and received great production from many players from 2002-2009. That was one hell of a stretch. It's just balancing out now, with more bad luck from 2010-2017. 

It's also a byproduct of the pitchers we are referring to. Bedrosian has been pretty unlucky with the blood clot and now the groin injury. Richards was tabbed as an injury risk the day he was drafted due to his ridiculous stuff he has and the arm slots he gets into. Heaney has a little bit of a crossfire in his delivery but otherwise he was the guy who was supposed to be a low risk #4 starter. Maybe the Marlins knew something the Angels didn't. Tropeano was acquired for essentially nothing so Houston probably just dodged the bullet before he inevitably got hurt due to his poor mechanics. The one complete wild card has been Skaggs, who absolutely torched the minors but dealt with the D-Backs altering his mechanics, being traded back to Anaheim and now dealing with TJ, shoulder soreness and currently an oblique injury in his Angels tenure.

Given the context of how many injuries occur to pitchers now, it's not as crazy as one might think but losing 4 big arms in the rotation hurts regardless of how much depth you have. The Angels better hope a few of these guys figure it out in the next few years.

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17 hours ago, totdprods said:

It's bad luck, but with all the injuries the Mariners are having under Dipoto as well you have to wonder if there's something lacking in his data that helps gauge a player's durability or if there's a disregard for health data.

It must be a Scott Servais thing as well since the last several years they have been killed with injuries.  Not to mention the Dodgers and their injuries.  

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