Props 47 & 57 and Gov Brown

[Brian Ilten]

If you voted for any of the above... how does it feel to have blood on your hands?

 

RIP Officer Keith Boyer.  Somehow, someway, the liberals in this state will either change or pay.

[the dude abides]

lol.

Welcome back to the fray, nutjob.

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

Saaaavage! 

[red321]

I think you should go on a hunger strike

[Chuck]

27 minutes ago, Brian Ilten said:

If you voted for any of the above... how does it feel to have blood on your hands?

 

RIP Officer Keith Boyer.  Somehow, someway, the liberals in this state will either change or pay.

Welcome back, @Brian Ilten. Don't be a stranger. We could use some more con blood in here. 

[Taylor]

For some reason, this reminds me of a Tad thread.

[Jay]

don't look at me I didn't vote for that shit

 

[mtangelsfan]

Let me actually try to tackle this.  It is not fair to blame a law or voters for the actions of a person.  There are many factors at work here.  Now, regarding the law.  California is in a difficult position with overcrowded jails and a gigantic budget deficit.  I get why they are trying to thin the population of prisons.  

However, why don't we talk about all of the inmates whose crimes are drug related.  It would seem prudent to me to let out non violent offenders early and exhaust that completely before releasing violent offenders.

[Glen]

Don't let a tragedy go to waste, eh Brian?  

[Blarg]

It was a poorly written bill that has a direct correlation to the officers death. Why sweep it under the rug? 

[Glen]

Don't let a tragedy go to waste, eh Blarg?

To answer your question,  read MTs post. I'm with him 100% on this one.

[Thomas]

3 minutes ago, Glen said:

 read MTs post. I'm with him 100% on this one.

 

[Blarg]

Well,  as usual,  you are wrong. 

[mtangelsfan]

No blarg, the killer is responsible for his actions.   Blaming the law alone is like blaming guns for killings instead of the killer.

[Glen]

If anyone on this board is qualified to know about being wrong, it's Blarg.

[Thomas]

Has the suspects identity even been released yet?  It seems rather unlikely he would have been considered a "non-violent" offender to be qualified to be released early.  He may not have been released early at all it seems though I'm a bit far away from the news.
http://ktla.com/2017/02/21/man-suspected-of-killing-whittier-police-officer-and-cousin-to-be-identified-tuesday-afternoon-lasd/

[Glen]

7 minutes ago, Thomas said:

 

MT's a good cat. We disagree occasionally but I have deep respect for him. We just like to push each other's buttons sometimes.

[Blarg]

MT we disagree, law is what is in question here and how it facilitated this event. This is not a singular incident,  nor preventable in the parole system. So maybe a serious review of what our societal obligations are to hold the line on criminal punishment rather than expeditious budget management. 

A cop died because a high speed rail to nowhere was prioritized over public safety. 

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, Blarg said:

MT we disagree, law is what is in question here and how it facilitated this event. This is not a singular incident,  nor preventable in the parole system. So maybe a serious review of what our societal obligations are to hold the line on criminal punishment rather than expeditious budget management. 

A cop died because a high speed rail to nowhere was prioritized over public safety. 

Citation that the law had an effect on this event?

[Blarg]

5 minutes ago, Glen said:

If anyone on this board is qualified to know about being wrong, it's Blarg.

I do witness you guys being wrong daily. 

[Thomas]

2 minutes ago, Glen said:

MT's a good cat. We disagree occasionally but I have deep respect for him. We just like to push each other's buttons sometimes.

 

[red321]

Times reporting name, though they specifically say in the article (as of 1:24pm), they do not know if the release of the suspect from previous jail time was related to the propositions.

MT has a pretty good take on it. Prison and sentencing is a mess, and a lot of the locking up people for drug possession and mandatory sentencing has done a number on the population which now puts the overall system in crisis.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-whittier-police-shooting-suspect-20170221-story.html

[mtangelsfan]

Glen and red agree with me.

I'm getting a lottery ticket.

[fan_since79]

I'm generally not keen on higher taxes, but I'll pay them in order to build more prisons. Any day. Lock them all up forever.

[red321]

Just now, mtangelsfan said:

Glen and red agree with me.

I'm getting a lottery ticket.

Or sent to hell