Angels Sign Austin Adams, DFA Guerra

[Amazing Larry]

 

 

[Chuck]

Wait, wasn't Deolis Guerra pretty solid for us last year, or am I thinking of someone else?

What's the deal on this Austin Adams kid?

[Angelsfan1984]

I don't get this move at all...I liked Guerra a lot.

[gotbeer]

27 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Wait, wasn't Deolis Guerra pretty solid for us last year, or am I thinking of someone else?

What's the deal on this Austin Adams kid?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=guerra001deo

44 Games, 53.1 IP, 3.21 ERA, 1.106 WHIP, 28 years old, 1.063 service time. 

Yeah, I don't get it.

Austin Adams

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/adamsau01.shtml

19 games, 18.1 IP, 9.82 ERA, 1.855 WHIP, 30 years old, 1.068 service time

I don't get it.

Edited February 10, 2017 by gotbeer

[Erstad Grit]

Strange, Guerra was pretty good

[WeatherWonk]

Adams had a WHIP of almost 1.9 last year, gave up 2.5HR/9 and 3.4BB/9. Only 18 innings.Career WHIP of 1.6. Only 58 IP total.

Took him to age 27 to reach the bigs. Will turn 31 in August.

Is this one of those gambles that we can retain him but remove him from the 40 man roster?

Still strange. Guerra seemed pretty good. Certainly good enough for THIS pen.

[Docwaukee]

while I have felt like Guerra was smoke and mirrors last year, I am not sure letting him go for Austin Adams makes a ton of sense.  

[Richard]

7 minutes ago, hangin n wangin said:

I have the dumb Mike Sciosca look on my face after seeing this move.

 

I too don't get this one either. 

[Angelsjunky]

WTF

[Troll Daddy]

I'm guessing scouting supersedes stats in this case.

I like Guerra too

 

[AngelsHilo]

One of the reports is saying it's because Deolis is out of options.  I can see that as being important as I suspect we will be moving pieces in and out of the pen.  This Adams guy throws hard so there might be an attraction to that also.

[m0nkey]

American League champion Austin Adams! Here to bring the winning culture back to Anaheim!

[John Smith]

Since Adams is out of options, it's probably safe to say that he will be DFA'd before too long. I don't see him making the club to start the season.

[Richard]

According to @Jeff Fletcher

" Despite Guerra having superior major league numbers to Adams - both in small sample sizes - the Angels believe Adams has a high enough upside to warrant the transaction, General Manager Billy Eppler said. "

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/adams-743714-right-handed.html

 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

37 minutes ago, Fregosi said:

One of the reports is saying it's because Deolis is out of options.  I can see that as being important as I suspect we will be moving pieces in and out of the pen.  This Adams guy throws hard so there might be an attraction to that also.

 

7 minutes ago, John Smith said:

Since Adams is out of options, it's probably safe to say that he will be DFA'd before too long. I don't see him making the club to start the season.

Well, I don't get the move. Other than Guerra doesn't throw extremely hard (a tick above 90mph) and doesn't miss many bats! Though I liked him in the bully and he rarely walked anyone! Adams may throw harder but that doesn't make him the better pitcher as he is older. They are both out of options like whats been stated so I think it's more a coin flip at this point and if they can sneak Guerra through Waivers great he can go down to SPT and make a case to being in the bullpen. If Adams flunks out no great loss its a PTBnL or Cash which pretty much means no one important! And could in fact be Adams back to Cleveland if he doesn't make the opening day roster with us..... (HA! I've seen this happen way back in the day). I think we are mainly looking for power arms toss them against a wall and hope 3 new ones stick.

[Dick B Back]

Upside > Reality.

[Hubs]

Adams throws 96 MPH. 

[Ohtaniland]

2 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Adams throws 96 MPH. 

So did Frieri.

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

6 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Adams throws 96 MPH. 

does it move? Maybe, not?... 88 batters faced in 18.1/3 innings?!?!?!?!..... WOW! ...

13.3 hits per/9... He's a Pachinko machine!

Year ▴	Age	Tm	Lg	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	ERA+	FIP	WHIP	H9	HR9	BB9	SO9	SO/W	Awards
2014	27	CLE	AL	0	0		9.00	6	0	1	0	0	0	7.0	9	7	7	1	1	0	4	0	0	0	30	46	4.27	1.429	11.6	1.3	1.3	5.1	4.00
2015	28	CLE	AL	2	0	1.000	3.78	28	0	9	0	0	1	33.1	37	15	14	2	13	0	23	0	0	1	149	115	3.70	1.500	10.0	0.5	3.5	6.2	1.77
2016	29	CLE	AL	0	0		9.82	19	0	11	0	0	0	18.1	27	22	20	5	7	1	17	0	0	0	88	48	5.98	1.855	13.3	2.5	3.4	8.3	2.43
3 Yrs				2	0	1.000	6.29	53	0	21	0	0	1	58.2	73	44	41	8	21	1	44	0	0	1	267	71	4.48	1.602	11.2	1.2	3.2	6.8	2.10

[totdprods]

Eppler and Co. must've thought that Guerra had an outside shot at best at making the pen - and that if he did make the pen, the upside there was limited. So more than likely, he was going to be goon soon if not sooner. With Adams, same deal - slim chance at making the pen but if he makes the pen, then he would have pitched an impressive spring and would have a lot more upside to offer. 

[Troll Daddy]

On a more positive note, Adams has had plenty of success in Triple-A, where he’s spent parts of three seasons. In that time, he’s tossed 103 2/3 innings of relief, logging a 3.47 ERA with 9.5 K/9 against 2.8 BB/9. He’s also averaged better than 96 mph on his fastball in recent seasons. Adams will join an unsettled bullpen mix with the Halos, where Huston Street, Cam Bedrosian, J.C. Ramirez and Andrew Bailey seem like the only right-handers that have spots locked down at this time.

traderumors 

[Angel Oracle]

I'd rather they signed another AA, WWE's Austin Aries. 

[greginpsca]

They might think Guerra will make it through waivers and be able to keep him in AAA

 

[Oz27]

Guerra's peripherals were awful and I had little faith he would repeat his success or even come close to it. Nevertheless, this is bizarre.

 

[Ohtaniland]