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Kaepernick sits during national anthem, and 49ers defend him


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I heard him mention that police brutality is one of the oppressions that he is referring to. What I don't understand is how he thinks his actions are going to help end it. You think two cops who are about to beat the shit out of a black kid for no reason are going to be swayed because Kaepernick doesn't stand during the National Anthem:

Hey, Mike, If we decide not to pummel this innocent black kid, maybe Kaepernick will stand this Sunday.

Oh yeah, ok, let's let him go with a warning.

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3 hours ago, Ray McKigney said:

I heard him mention that police brutality is one of the oppressions that he is referring to. What I don't understand is how he thinks his actions are going to help end it. You think two cops who are about to beat the shit out of a black kid for no reason are going to be swayed because Kaepernick doesn't stand during the National Anthem:

Hey, Mike, If we decide not to pummel this innocent black kid, maybe Kaepernick will stand this Sunday.

Oh yeah, ok, let's let him go with a warning.

The only thing BLM wants to see is better accountability for when one of these bad apples shoots an unarmed person or they use an illegal choke hold.

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9 hours ago, Glen said:

Again, another white guy telling us what Kaepernick was thinking. Thanks for clearing it up, Jay!

 

Thought of this post as I'm watching the news and there's a black guy telling me what "colon" is thinking.  I'm guessing if it doesn't even know his name, the likelihood that he knows what he was thinking is about as good as anyone posting here.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Thomas said:

I'd wager a tidy sum that kaepernick, like most Americans, has never read or sung anything other than the first verse of the anthem, and that it never entered his thinking in all of this.

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21 minutes ago, Tank said:

I'd wager a tidy sum that kaepernick, like most Americans, has never read or sung anything other than the first verse of the anthem, and that it never entered his thinking in all of this.

No but it is the perfect cherry on top for the viewpoint of those who because of the past actions of the Stars and Stripes view their relationship with patriotism as complicated. My God what would the reaction been if an Athlete said this in this present day?

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Geoff said:

 

Thought of this post as I'm watching the news and there's a black guy telling me what "colon" is thinking.  I'm guessing if it doesn't even know his name, the likelihood that he knows what he was thinking is about as good as anyone posting here.

 

 

Bartolo feels the pain, too

yes, I realize I could have substituted colon for Bartolo 

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40 minutes ago, Thomas said:

No but it is the perfect cherry on top for the viewpoint of those who because of the past actions of the Stars and Stripes view their relationship with patriotism as complicated. My God what would the reaction been if an Athlete said this in this present day?

 

 

that's an amazing clip. Ali was a Man. Capital M. 

Kaepernick, that's how you protest. 

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On 8/28/2016 at 7:13 PM, ten ocho recon scout said:

Not what i was gettimg at at all. My point is that anyone who asks for recognition in any matter really has no voice unless they themself are part of it. 

Hes neither cop nor victim of police abuse. And i doubt very much that he could give any factual background on any of these high profile cases that have made the news, other than what social media has told him.

Ill start taking BLM serious as soon as they come out on any of these shootings and say "yeah, that guy deserved it."

Most of the victims of police abuse are dead.  

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3 hours ago, Rico said:

The only thing BLM wants to see is better accountability for when one of these bad apples shoots an unarmed person or they use an illegal choke hold.

What they want is the law to work different toward law enforcement, the exact opposite of what they say they want.

The general public whos seriously curious about this would do well to actually attend a few trials...and see how many cases are lost or tossed for lack of evidence.

The narrative that the person shot was black, and the shooter was a cop = guilty is the problem. Everybody gets fired up without bothering to look at the actual evidence.

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9 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Everybody gets fired up without bothering to look at the actual evidence.

It's really hard to discount their complaints entirely considering what the Department of Justice recently concluded about the Albuquerque Police Department.

FINDINGS

The Justice Department found reasonable cause to believe that the Albuquerque Police Department engages in a pattern or practice of excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution.  The Justice Department specifically found three patterns of excessive force:

  • Officers too frequently use deadly force against people who pose a minimal threat in situations where the conduct of the officers heightens the danger and contributes to the need to use force;
  • Officers use less lethal force, including Tasers, on people who are passively resisting, non-threatening, observably unable to comply with orders, or pose only a minimal threat to the officers; and
  • Encounters between Albuquerque Police officers and persons with mental illness and in crisis too frequently result in a use of force or a higher level of force than necessary.

The Justice Department also found systemic deficiencies of the police department, which contribute to these three patterns.  The causes include deficient policies, failed accountability systems, inadequate training, inadequate supervision, ineffective systems of investigation and adjudication, the absence of a culture of community policing, and a lack of sufficient civilian oversight.

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Jason Whitlock's take:

http://gioandjones.radio.cbssports.com/2016/08/30/jason-whitlock-think-kaepernick-is-quitting-football/

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“I’m not going to call him a hero. I’m not going to call him a goat, either,” the Speak For Yourself co-host said on CBS Sports Radio’s Gio and Jones. “He’s a young person who I would suspect has been struggling with his identity throughout his life, and now he is publicly struggling with his identity and struggling with his failure as a franchise quarterback. I think the failure as a quarterback has heightened his struggle with his identity because I think being this successful NFL quarterback masks probably some of the identity issues that he was dealing with. For the most part, I think Colin Kaepernick is quitting football and that’s what this is about. He’s had it with football. For the past year-and-a-half, he’s really struggled. I think this is his way out of football. He doesn’t want to deal with the pressure and burden of being a football player anymore. As his career has fallen apart, he’s become more bitter, and now I think he’s in some ways blaming race and racism for his failure and he’s fallen into this hole of Twitter information, which is very shallow. He has very shallow understanding of the racial issues confronting African-Americans. The easy and the hot thing to do right now is to scream, ‘Hey, police brutality!’ and ‘Unarmed black men are getting killed, and I’m upset about it!’ and ‘Look how black I am!’”

“Look, racism is an issue in America,” he said. “It does need to be confronted. The way he’s doing it, though, first of all, he’s on the wrong issue. And secondly, he’s doing this more to shield his own failures and try to carve out this pro-black identity that Twitter tries to bait you into. The kid’s had a tough life, and I say that in terms of his identity. Abandoned by his black father, given up for adoption by his white mother, adopted by a white family – he has struggled with his identity, I would imagine, for a while. And again, we’re seeing it play out on a big public stage right now.”

“The police brutality is a smoke screen to move people away from the mass-incarceration issue,” he said. “I’ve read all these pieces about the government and state-sanctioned murder of black men. That’s all bogus B.S. The government has no interest in police killing unarmed black men or unarmed white men – or anybody – because it costs the government money. You have to settle up most of the time. What the state and what the prison industrial complex has an interest in is escorting people to prison. You can turn a profit off of that. So this guy’s got a thimble full of information (and) doesn’t understand his stature. When you’re a multi-millionaire with a platform as an NFL quarterback, gestures – and that’s all this is is a gesture – is not what you’re called upon to do. He’s not John Carlos and Tommie Smith. Those guys in the 1960s, when they were making gestures, that was all they could do. They weren’t wealthy. They didn’t have the power or the platform that Colin Kaepernick and these modern-day athletes have.

“I keep going back to LeBron James and the work that he’s doing in Akron in his hometown with young African-Americans, the investment in his community,” Whitlock continued. “When you have this kind of wealth and platform, that’s how you should be directing your actions in terms of making change. Let newspaper people, let media people, be outspoken. When you have great wealth, you should use it to influence change. But again, for the most part from what I’ve seen here, Colin Kaepernick wants to quit football, certainly wants out of San Francisco, and he’s come up with this heroic way to end his football career. ‘I’m not going to stand for the national anthem, and I’m against police brutality.’ (That’s) a very simple-minded understanding of what’s really impacting African-Americans.”

 

 

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