Chicago Shooting Gallery

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

But Harambe makes the news...

[Jason]

Maybe the gang members should receive formal firearms training so they only kill each other instead of just spraying bullets everywhere. I'm Ok with gang members killing each other.

[ten ocho recon scout]

7 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

The vast majority of these shootings are by young black gang members aiming at other young black gang members. Unfortunately, they're such bad shots that they often kill innocent people.  It has little to do with gun laws, as criminals will ignore those and find a way to obtain weapons. It has everything to do with culture, education, family, and other factors.

Not just the innocent bystanders from bad shots, but also very common is the fact you have armed 13-16 year olds running around trying to make a rep. They often shoot better than people realize...the lroblem.is, the people they shoot werent involved, but the dumbass kid trying to make a name for himself didnt bother to ask.

There was a time when "i dont bang, homie" was generally a pass...nowadays not so much.

[Lhalo]

Another fun weekend in Chicago!

https://wgntv.com/2018/08/06/9-dead-53-injured-in-chicago-weekend-shootings-hospitals-overwhelmed/

[Jason]

On 6/1/2016 at 9:49 AM, Lhalo said:

Don't worry, Al and Jesse are all over it.

 

Or not.

He's helping too

[fan_since79]

Jesse Jackson tweeted that we need more gun control.

Yeah, that'll fix it.

 

[fan_since79]

Oh, and the police chief will have a press conference later this morning.

Problem solved.

[RallyMo]

11 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Oh, and the police chief will have a press conference later this morning.

Problem solved.

Obviously nothing has been fixed.

What's your solution?

[fan_since79]

16 minutes ago, RallyMo said:

Obviously nothing has been fixed.

What's your solution?

complex problem...has a lot to do with family, economic opportunity, education, culture, and other factors.

Additionally, many of these young gang members lack fathers to guide them. The father is either missing, dead, or in prison. That's the sad reality.

I don't have a solution to all this.

Edited August 6, 2018 by fan_since79

[fan_since79]

But I'm not against more sensible and effective gun control. Not at all. I'm not sure, however, how effective it will be against gang members who can find a way to obtain weapons illegally.

 

[RallyMo]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

complex problem...has a lot to do with family, economic opportunity, education, culture, and other factors.

Additionally, many of these young gang members lack fathers to guide them. The father is either missing, dead, or in prison. That's the sad reality.

So the reality is that either it's going to continue to be left to fester or it's going to take a lot of money and time to fix something like this as it is clearly multilayered. 

[fan_since79]

1 minute ago, RallyMo said:

So the reality is that either it's going to continue to be left to fester or it's going to take a lot of money and time to fix something like this as it is clearly multilayered. 

That's right.

I wonder what the churches and communities are doing to help lessen this violence. It's easy for these people to give up hope. It's like living in a war zone, and traumatic stress paralyzes you at some point. Something has to get through to these young gangsters that they're destroying their families and community, and themselves.

[Tank]

1 hour ago, RallyMo said:

So the reality is that either it's going to continue to be left to fester or it's going to take a lot of money and time to fix something like this as it is clearly multilayered. 

Status quo. Nothing changes because both sides are so dug in to their agenda.

nothing will change until both sides are willing to sit down and work out some common sense approaches to it. 

[arch stanton]

15 minutes ago, Tank said:

Status quo. Nothing changes because both sides are so dug in to their agenda.

nothing will change until both sides are willing to sit down and work out some common sense approaches to it. 

What two sides?

[fan_since79]

Title changed to reflect the continuing reality.

 

Edited August 6, 2018 by fan_since79

[Jason]

Whether it's in Chicago or anywhere else, felons, gangbangers and other prohibited persons should have mandatory minimum sentences for gun related crimes

[Thomas]

21 minutes ago, Tank said:

nothing will change until both sides are willing to sit down and work out some common sense approaches to it. 

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/197/Appeal-to-Common-Sense

[arch stanton]

Yeah the fear of prison definitely seems to run deep in them

[fan_since79]

1 minute ago, arch stanton said:

Yeah the fear of prison definitely seems to run deep in them

How about 40 years in solitary for these creeps? They can belong to a gang of one in their little cell.

Yeah I know, that's a fantasy.

[Thomas]

If future consequences was a meaningful deterrent people wouldn't:

1. commit crimes
2. consume drugs or alcohol
3. eat at fast food
4. watch the Angels.

[RallyMo]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

If future consequences was a meaningful deterrent people wouldn't:

1. commit crimes
2. consume drugs or alcohol
3. eat at fast food
4. watch the Angels.

Well, it's important to note that 4 can lead to 2 (which can then lead to 1), so we're probably all just best off doing 3 and heading to the gym.

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, RallyMo said:

Well, it's important to note that 4 can lead to 2 (which can then lead to 1), so we're probably all just best off doing 3 and heading to the gym.

I'm pretty sure 4 can and inevitably will lead to each of the first 3.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, arch stanton said:

Yeah the fear of prison definitely seems to run deep in them

It's not about the deterrent. Just lock them up so they can't shoot the place up

[Tank]

On 8/6/2018 at 12:01 PM, Thomas said:

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/197/Appeal-to-Common-Sense

So There's no middle ground to be found between those who want to take away every gun and those who don't want to remove any kind of gun? How would you suggest I should have worded my statement?

[Blarg]

On 8/6/2018 at 7:57 AM, RallyMo said:

Obviously nothing has been fixed.

What's your solution?

I told you last year. Bring in the National guard and cordon off hot zones, go door to door and confiscate all weapons. Search all cars, all buildings and every person. Keep the pressure on until fall when it cools down and people aren't 24/7 crazy.

You should be on board with that, right?