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It’s time to remind ourselves of the evils of socialism


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1 hour ago, nate said:

This thread reminds me of something I have been saying a while.  Bernie and Trump voters are the same people, a sprinkling of America's elite, and the rest are basement dwelling janitors.

 

I'm proud to be a member of the American elite.

 

You should be honored to be gracing the same website as me.

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6 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

When did I attribute it to a specific person? It's a paraphrase of a saying that's been false attributed to various public figures in order to legitimize an opinion for quite a while.

Fixed. I do give you credit for not attributing it to anyone. It annoys me to death when people falsely attribute quotes.

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1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

“If a man is not a Socialist at 20 he has no heart, but if he remains one at 30 he has no head. If by the time he's 40--or any age, really--he doesn't realize how stupid that previous sentence is, he's an idiot."

 

I think it's quite profound really, it speaks to the naivety of the young.

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1 minute ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I think it's quite profound really, it speaks to the naivety of the young.

Well, at least you're creative with words like your beloved president.

Anyhow, you miss the irony here, evidently. The word "socialist" means different things to different people, not to mention that there are different variations and degrees. What is naive--in a let's-buy-the-FOX-propaganda-sorta-way--is equating all Socialism with some weird and unholy mixture of Venezuela and Stalinist Russia. That is not the Democratic Socialism of Bernie Sanders or of Western Europe.

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2 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

 Well, at least you're creative with words like your beloved president.

Anyhow, you miss the irony here, evidently. The word "socialist" means different things to different people, not to mention that there are different variations and degrees. What is naive--in a let's-buy-the-FOX-propaganda-sorta-way--is equating all Socialism with some weird and unholy mixture of Venezuela and Stalinist Russia. That is not the Democratic Socialism of Bernie Sanders or of Western Europe.

 

I see it as "the government will take care of you" type of mentality. It's really, really, really simple.

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You realize we pay taxes, right? I'd rather those taxes go to things that actually benefit most/all citizens--like health care and education--than to wars to fill the pockets of defense contractors and re-inforce imperialism.

It isn't about the government taking care of us as much as the money we give to the government going towards things that actually benefit us as human beings - not just serving the corporate oligarchy.

 

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2 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

You realize we pay taxes, right? I'd rather those taxes go to things that actually benefit most/all citizens--like health care and education--than to wars to fill the pockets of defense contractors and re-inforce imperialism.

It isn't about the government taking care of us as much as the money we give to the government going towards things that actually benefit us as human beings - not just serving the corporate oligarchy.

  

 

I'd rather neither of those things. I'd rather pay significantly less taxes. It's better for everybody.

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