Advanced Scouting, The Royals, the Playoffs & Dipoto

[TroutBaseball]

The big story in this year's playoffs is the Royals use of advanced scouting.  They knew Bautista would throw in to second, so Cain went first-to-home on a single, they knew David Price was tipping his pitches, and apparently they saw deGrom tipping his pitches last night.

 

As I recall, media members said that Dipoto's last straw with the Angels came when Sosh wouldn't pass advanced scouting reports on to the team and when he tried to pass them on directly to the players Pujols stood up for Sosh and said the players had all the info they needed and that the roster just couldn't produce.

 

This wasn't the traditional old school vs sabrmetrics scenario where the "good baseball guy" doesn't want to think in a new way, this was just rejecting standard information that could help the team.

 

So with the Royals success will Sosh decide to take greater notice of these reports?

 

 

[mrwicked]

scioscia's guaranteed fat contract will continue to block his vision of such things for a few more years.

[Jobu]

scioscia's guaranteed fat contract will continue to block his vision of such things for a few more years.

JERRY LOVER!

[Troll Daddy]

The big story in this year's playoffs is the Royals use of advanced scouting. They knew Bautista would throw in to second, so Cain went first-to-home on a single, they knew David Price was tipping his pitches, and apparently they saw deGrom tipping his pitches last night.

As I recall, media members said that Dipoto's last straw with the Angels came when Sosh wouldn't pass advanced scouting reports on to the team and when he tried to pass them on directly to the players Pujols stood up for Sosh and said the players had all the info they needed and that the roster just couldn't produce.

This wasn't the traditional old school vs sabrmetrics scenario where the "good baseball guy" doesn't want to think in a new way, this was just rejecting standard information that could help the team.

So with the Royals success will Sosh decide to take greater notice of these reports?

Scouting wins over saber metrics .... Scioscia knows scouting.

[Jobu]

The Royals were all over everything deGrom was throwing last night. It even got Harold Reynolds rambling about sign stealing conspiracies.

Nobody really knows what kind of scouting reports Jerry and his team were trying to get into the hands of players, so it's really impossible to speculate.

But that won't stop us. 8 pages.

[Homebrewer]

Scioscia is a big fan and supporter of scouting.

He buys more of their cookies than anyone else in his neighborhoods. 

Edited October 29, 2015 by Homebrewer

[IEAngelsfan]

Scioscia is a big fan and supporter of scouting.

He buys more of their cookies than anyone else in his neighborhoods. 

Haha.

 

When I first read your post, I was like wha..........I didn't get.  Had to read it twice.

[Jobu]

I have to respect the lack of pasta in a Scioscia fat joke.

[arch stanton]

Remember the 1988 World Series? The one Sosh played in? There was a pretty famous home run hit in that series. Seems the scouts had told the players that Eck always throws a backdoor slider when he's 3-2 to a lefty. Some gimpy dude jacked that slider into the seats.

Point is that scouting isn't new and I doubt seriously that this was the type of info that wasn't getting passed on. You'd have to be pretty gullible to believe Sosh was discarding info just to be old school. At some point maybe he thought they were getting information overload.

[Angel Oracle]

We have advanced scouts?

The team constantly shut down by unknowns?

The same org that hired Squiggy as a scout years back?

Edited October 29, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Docwaukee]

Scouting wins over saber metrics .... Scioscia knows scouting.

scouting and sabermetrics are not mutually exclusive 

[Blarg]

The Cubs advanced scouts must have sucked ass or Maddon had no clue what to do with the information.

[Yellow Balloon]

Ever since players started covering their mouths with their gloves it's just been impossible to know what they'll do.

[Puget Sound Angel]

Really gotta let go of Dipoto.

[ukyah]

The Cubs advanced scouts must have sucked ass or Maddon had no clue what to do with the information.

 

 

you know how you get on some guys for taking the same tired shtick into every thread? yeah.