Trade Heaney while his stock is high

[NrM]

Package him with another arm in the minors like Ellis. 

Acquire 2-3 high level everyday TOP prospects.

 

Sign David Price or Zimmerman.. or even someone like Kazmir...

 

Rotation improves, farmsystem depth improves... still remain competitive.

 

 

 

Hate on it all you want, but he's the only guy capable of bringing in a decent hall that wouldn't severely impact the major league roster.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Poozy

[QuinlansMinion]

Heaney and Cron for Votto.

Edited October 6, 2015 by QuinlansMinion

[Second Base]

Lol

[NrM]

Lol

 

 

How good do you think Heaney will be? I don't think he will ever be a 1 or 2.

[QuinlansMinion]

How good do you think Heaney will be? I don't think he will ever be a 1 or 2.

You are basing this off of what exactly?

[Troll Daddy]

Trading Heaney is something to consider while his value is up. He can easily comeback down to earth next season. I always thought he was a back of the rotation pitcher. I'll eat a little crow on that thought for now.

[Troll Daddy]

You got to love Scotty ... he thinks all our prospects are stars in the making.

[Guest]

How good do you think Heaney will be? I don't think he will ever be a 1 or 2.

He's already a #2 in case you haven't noticed.

[jecho_21]

Trout's stock is high. We should trade him too.

[HaloCory22]

He's already a #2 in case you haven't noticed.

To be fair, he's an Angels rotation #2. A 4/5 on most other playoff teams. I don't trade him though. One of the few that's come up from the beginning and actually delivered.

[UndertheHalo]

it depends on the deal, I don't think its a terrible idea depending on the return.  Poozy, I agree with you that Heaney is likely not a front end starter.  I just don't see him striking out enough people to be that kind of pitcher.  He seems to project as a good to very good mid rotation starter, which by the way is very valuable.  The reality is he's a young MLB ready cost controlled SP.  That in itself should command a significant return.  The Angels have areas with less depth then pitcher, so again for the right deal I could see it being viable option.  I just doubt that deal ever materializes.

Edited October 6, 2015 by UndertheHalo

[nando714]

Do people think Heaney has maxed out his potential already? In what 1/2 a season ?

[Angel Oracle]

Of all the lefties going forward after Nibs leaves, which ones are the best to NOT trade between Santiago, Heaney, Skaggs, Newcomb, Nate Smith, and DeLoach?  

[Homebrewer]

Heaney Skaggs Newcomb Smith

[red321]

Heaney is a left hander who throws in the mid 90's and has 5 years of club control. He has the makings of a top of the rotation starter.

 

You do not trade that.

[NrM]

Heaney is a left hander who throws in the mid 90's and has 5 years of club control. He has the makings of a top of the rotation starter.

 

You do not trade that.

 

91 MPH with no movement is considered "mid 90s" now?

 

And how the hell do you think teams acquire talent? takes talent to acquire talent......

Edited October 6, 2015 by Poozy

[Homebrewer]

Arte said he is ready to spend whatever.

Problem solved.

[beatlesrule]

Um.....no.

[tdawg87]

Package him with another arm in the minors like Ellis. 

Acquire 2-3 high level everyday TOP prospects.

 

Sign David Price or Zimmerman.. or even someone like Kazmir...

 

Rotation improves, farmsystem depth improves... still remain competitive.

 

 

 

Hate on it all you want, but he's the only guy capable of bringing in a decent hall that wouldn't severely impact the major league roster.

 

So, is the idea to trade a young, cost-controlled starter and one of the team's top pitching prospects for....more prospects? I don't really get it. If you trade Heaney and Ellis you'd better be getting a damn good bat in return.

[NrM]

So, is the idea to trade a young, cost-controlled starter and one of the team's top pitching prospects for....more prospects? I don't really get it. If you trade Heaney and Ellis you'd better be getting a damn good bat in return.

 

 

The reasoning is to restock the farm with upper level everyday prospects while remaining competitive.

 

Heaney and Ellis wont get you a damn good bat unless he came with a lot of salary owed.

Edited October 7, 2015 by Poozy

[tdawg87]

Heaney and Ellis wont get you a damn good bat unless he'd be coming with a lot of salary owed.

 

They won't get you a damn good bat, but they will get you 2-3 "TOP" prospects?

 

You sure about that?

[NrM]

They won't get you a damn good bat, but they will get you 2-3 "TOP" prospects?

 

You sure about that?

 

Nope

Edited October 7, 2015 by Poozy

[Tyler]

No

[NrM]

No

 

**** you bro

[Second Base]

To me, Heaney already looks like a solid #3, and I figure that's what he'll likely be for the next 10 years.  His value isn't up or down.  He isn't a prospect anymore.  He's a major leaguer, and a pretty solid one at that.  I just don't see the purpose in packaging young, inexpensive major leaguers with upside for young inexpensive prospects for upside.  It just doesn't make a ton of sense, and neither does trading away our second best starting pitcher.

 

I'm fine with trading some of our pitching.  Even after Wilson and Weaver are gone, the Angels could still afford to trade Santiago, Shoemaker and Smith, and still roll out a rotation of Richards, Newcomb, Heaney, Skaggs and Tropeano/Ellis.

 

In my understanding of how to construct a major league organization, you're supposed to build around young talent, not trade it away the moment they have some success.  What would've happened had we traded Trout away after his rookie year, just because we thought he wouldn't always be a 10-win player?