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By the way Ville, it is 162 game season not a 4 game playoff with the Dodgers. So unless you think the Angels couldn't make up ground in 158 games then your statement was pure hogwash.

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There's a pile of 'what if' moments you look at from every season. If Street didn't have those epic meltdowns against Houston and KC we'd be in a much stronger position. Or if we hadn't taken it from behind against crappy teams like the Giants or White Sox. Or if we could actually hit.

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There's a pile of 'what if' moments you look at from every season. If Street didn't have those epic meltdowns against Houston and KC we'd be in a much stronger position. Or if we hadn't taken it from behind against crappy teams like the Giants or White Sox. Or if we could actually hit.

 

Exactly OZ. The team is 4 games over .500, that is not a team that you can point to any series and say that was the critical moment. They have bumbled their way to just better than league average and are in a wildcard race with 2 other teams that are just as fallible.

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Didn't Lou point out that Houston and Texas also had to face the Dodgers and kicked their asses despite also having to face Kershaw/Greinke?

That sounds like something Lou would do.

So we'll just say it happened.

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Didn't Lou point out that Houston and Texas also had to face the Dodgers and kicked their asses despite also having to face Kershaw/Greinke?

 

They only faced Greinke for one of the 3 games. But the White Sox own them. Damn Danks!

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By the way Ville, it is 162 game season not a 4 game playoff with the Dodgers. So unless you think the Angels couldn't make up ground in 158 games then your statement was pure hogwash.

This misses the point. Exhibition games against teams across town should not count in the standings. All teams within a given division should play the same teams the same number of times. And the ratio of games vs division rivals and games vs other teams needs to be 13:9-10, not 19:6-7

This isn't college football where a computer can be programmed to wave its hands and adjust standings based on strength of schedule.

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They aren't exhibition games, Scott. No one was complaining when the Angels raped the NL in interleague in previous seasons.

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I don't understand the backlash here.

 

* The Angels have to face the Dodgers six times a year. Every year. Everything else on their schedule is rotated as fairly as possible to make the schedules even. Normally, this isn't THAT big of a deal. Except when the Dodgers throw two of the best five starters in the game at you twice each. We split the other two games.

 

* Minnesota plays Milwaukee six times every year. Houston and Texas trade off between Colorado and Arizona every year. We get the Dodgers and the A's get the Giants. How is that fair?

 

We're talking eight figure payrolls here (seven for some). You would think with the money these teams are worth that MLB would fix this. I guarantee you if the Yankees lost six games to the Mets this year (or vice versa) and missed the playoffs by one game this would get fixed.  

 

Look at the NFL schedule. You play your division (six games), you rotate a division in your conference (four games), a division from the other conference (four games), and then you play the two other teams in your conference that finished the same place you did. All 32 teams have the same formula. You don't have the Steelers facing the Eagles every year and then you piecemeal the rest of the schedule from there.

 

Yes, the Angels blew a lot of games this year to crappy teams. So what? So did the Twins. So did the Astros. So did the Rangers. None of those teams had to battle the off the field issues we faced this year.

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The backlash is that you are trying to make the case that having to face two pitchers for one or two games each breaks the whole season. It just doesn't wash.

Every game counts. Division leaders are often within a few games or less of each other in the final standings. For most of the last decade the Rangers have been basically gifted a full two or three game handicap in the standings over the Angels and the A's due to having very weak opponents (the tanking Astros and, recently the incompetent DBacks) in the cross-town rivalry series.

I would not be opposed to doing interleague the way interconference play is handled in football, and aside from the perennial cross town rivalry series that's how it's being done.

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Every game counts. Division leaders are often within a few games or less of each other in the final standings. For most of the last decade the Rangers have been basically gifted a full two or three game handicap in the standings over the Angels and the A's due to having very weak opponents (the tanking Astros and, recently the incompetent DBacks) in the cross-town rivalry series.

I would not be opposed to doing interleague the way interconference play is handled in football, and aside from the perennial cross town rivalry series that's how it's being done.

 

Thank you. These same people who aren't grasping this would bitch if Scioscia started a AAA pitcher in the final series instead of Richards. "He cost us a playoff spot!"

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Every game counts. Division leaders are often within a few games or less of each other in the final standings. For most of the last decade the Rangers have been basically gifted a full two or three game handicap in the standings over the Angels and the A's due to having very weak opponents (the tanking Astros and, recently the incompetent DBacks) in the cross-town rivalry series.

I would not be opposed to doing interleague the way interconference play is handled in football, and aside from the perennial cross town rivalry series that's how it's being done.

The Rangers seemed to play ok against the Dodgers and Giants

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This misses the point. Exhibition games against teams across town should not count in the standings. All teams within a given division should play the same teams the same number of times. And the ratio of games vs division rivals and games vs other teams needs to be 13:9-10, not 19:6-7

This isn't college football where a computer can be programmed to wave its hands and adjust standings based on strength of schedule.

You have some ridiculous opinions about exhibition games or about playoff series that aren't seven games don't count in your eyes.

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