MLB Managers and Coaches: Miggy better hitter than Trout

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Interesting: MLB managers and coaches say Miguel Cabrera is best hitter in AL, Mike Trout has best power: http://t.co/q8RE7UUmwK

[Blarg]

Trout strikes out too much.

[UndertheHalo]

fair enough, but lets see how good Trout is after he's been around the block as many times as Miguel Cabrera.

[Blarg]

I think that is the true test, how Trout transitions into what should be his peak seasons.

[nando714]

Trout slumps last way longer than Miggys

[TEvans]

Miggy can't do this though:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-mvp-power-opposite-field-homer-al-west-080715

[SoWhat]

They're right.

[NJHalo]

Miggy's wife says he is a better hitter

[seenoevil]

Screw piggy

[HaloCory22]

Miggy is the complete hitter. Trout is the complete player. He'll pass Miggy soon enough.

[nando714]

Trout BA might go under .300 after today's game btw

[Second Base]

Garrett Richards graded with the best fastball. I agree. 96+ with movement that changes every pitch can give the opposition fits.

Now if he'd just stop hanging his slider.

Edited August 10, 2015 by ScottyA_MWAH

[Inside Pitch]

Managers/coaches and Angel fans seem at odds regarding Eric Aybar's bunting ...  

[Dick B Back]

Miggy is the best hitter in the AL. No surprise there.

[Guest]

Managers/coaches and Angel fans seem at odds regarding Eric Aybar's bunting ...  

Aybar is fine at executing the bunts. It's the timing of when to attempt the bunt that is questionable.

[Inside Pitch]

Aybar is fine at executing the bunts. It's the timing of when to attempt the bunt that is questionable.

 

Or, its just familiarity breeding contempt.   When you see it over and over and over, the times it blows up stand out.   But when compared to other he's very very good.   His average on bunts is typically among the AL leaders - he's got multiple flat bat awards under his belt.

Edited August 10, 2015 by Inside Pitch

[Angelsjunky]

wOBA is probably as good as any stat to determine pure hitting ability. Unlike wRC+, it doesn't include baserunning. Here are their wOBAs over the last four years:

 

Trout (.413): .409, .423, .402, .420

Cabrera (.420): .417, .455, .384, .435

 

The outlier for Cabrera is 2014, when I believe he was nursing or recovering from an injury. But clearly Cabrera has the edge, although it isn't by a huge amount.

 

By the way, Harper's wOBA this year is .467, which is better than any season by Cabrera or Albert Pujols, for that matter.

[laagamer]

You could make the argument, certainly.

But it's still close enough to be debatable if you watch both regularly IMO.

[Blarg]

If Harper was to piss in a cup for testing the bottom would melt out.

[ten ocho recon scout]

AJ, does woba include the rest of the league, meaning it takes into account eras?

[QuinlansMinion]

Im okay with this until Trout proves he can hit in the postseason.

[ten ocho recon scout]

The only part id disagree from that is i think mcab has more power...but maybe im wrong?

I think miggy is the better hitter all around, bo problem with that but trouts the better player. His total skills more than make up for the gap in hitting

[Guest]

The only part id disagree from that is i think mcab has more power...but maybe im wrong?

I think miggy is the better hitter all around, bo problem with that but trouts the better player. His total skills more than make up for the gap in hitting

 

In terms of things like batted ball velocity and home run distance Trout is among the very top alongside Stanton, Cruz, and Donaldson. Cabrera is the best overall hitter, but Trout hits for more power at this time.

[moccasin]

I'd agree Cabrera is better at hitting baseballs, but in park adjusted OPS+, Trout has him beat 3 of the last 4 years.

Running to first is also part of hitting.

[Angelsjunky]

AJ, does woba include the rest of the league, meaning it takes into account eras?

 

Here's a description. The simple answer is yes: wOBA is weighted based upon the year.