Phillies trade Hamels to Rangers, sources say

[ten ocho recon scout]

Do the Angels even have the equivalent talent to match the Rangers deal?

not sure, but even if they did wed have zero in the cupboard moving forward. Love to have him or someone like him here, but it would have been a bad move organizationally.

[Inside Pitch]

Do the Angels even have the equivalent talent to match the Rangers deal?

 

Nothing remotely close position player wise. 

[Guest]

Wow, incredibly dumb trade for the Phillies. Enjoy Matt Harrison you chumps.

[Stradling]

Wow, incredibly dumb trade for the Phillies. Enjoy Matt Harrison you chumps.

They got 3 top hundred prospects, how can it be dumb? The team needs to rebuild.

[Guest]

They got 3 top hundred prospects, how can it be dumb? The team needs to rebuild.

Sure, the Phils got a couple good prospects, but they just traded their ace. Now they have a huge hole in their rotation.

Is Jerome Williams their ace now?

[TroutField]

Sure, the Phils got a couple good prospects, but they just traded their ace. Now they have a huge hole in their rotation.

Is Jerome Williams their ace now?

The Phillies don't need an ace they are in a severe rebuild. Do you even follow baseball? A lot of the stuff you say on here makes me shake my head.

[nando714]

Sure, the Phils got a couple good prospects, but they just traded their ace. Now they have a huge hole in their rotation.

Is Jerome Williams their ace now?

Aaron Nola

[Hollyw00d]

the Phillies don't need an ace, they're in tank mode

[Jay]

didn't Hamels have a no-trade he was willing to waive for TEX?

[laagamer]

So the Rangers get stronger.

Josh has 2 hits again tonight.

Astros working us over right now.

Where is the fight in this club?

With the God of baseball on the bench.

[laagamer]

Texas didn't make this move for 2015. It was for 2016 & 2017, since Yu will be back.

I agree. But it doesn't hurt their chances*. As other guys stated, they're definitely not out of it yet.

EDIT: This year*

Edited July 30, 2015 by laagamer

[laagamer]

Albert has a higher WAR than Fielder, by almost a full game.

Really?

Nice. Very interesting.

[laagamer]

But when you see a guy with a career BABIP of .306 suddenly put up a number 40 points higher, and his pull rates and ISO drop, it may be a sign.

So he's having more balls fall in for hits the other way, for less bases, which translates to singles the other way:

He's beating the shift. Which accounts for his high AVG.

Thanks for the # crunch there.

[Jay]

didn't Hamels have a no-trade he was willing to waive for TEX?

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/phillies/Sources-Phillies-.html

 

Hamels' 20-team no-trade clause did not include the Rangers, who in recent days emerged as the favorite to land the pitcher. The Los Angeles Dodgers and Houston Astros were also said to be in the mix. According to USA TODAY, Hamels rejected a potential deal to the Astros, one of the teams covered under his no-trade clause.

[DMVol]

Do the Angels even have the equivalent talent to match the Rangers deal?

 

Nothing remotely close position player wise. 

Which is why, although Stoneman frustrated me for years with his inactivity at the trade deadline, he really was in a tough spot this time. Cleaning out the few premium prospects we have (pretty much all pitchers) for a big contract like Hamels or a rental like Price could really have handicapped the new GM this fall....Let's hope the pitching holds up and the new OF'ers, combined, are the missing piece for the offense....

[Hollyw00d]

its a good thing hamels rejected that Astros deal

[Pujols4MVP]

its a good thing hamels rejected that Astros deal

 

Yep. He will be enjoying missing the playoffs again. He probally wishes he had the Rangers in his no trade clause list lol.

[Redondo]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/phillies/Sources-Phillies-.html

 

Hamels' 20-team no-trade clause did not include the Rangers, who in recent days emerged as the favorite to land the pitcher. The Los Angeles Dodgers and Houston Astros were also said to be in the mix. According to USA TODAY, Hamels rejected a potential deal to the Astros, one of the teams covered under his no-trade clause.

 

Yikes, the Astros with Hamel?

[Jimmag]

Did not want to see him in our division. No bueno.

[Inside Pitch]

So he's having more balls fall in for hits the other way, for less bases, which translates to singles the other way:

He's beating the shift. Which accounts for his high AVG.

Thanks for the # crunch there

 

It's interesting to watch...   There are things he's doing that are uncommon for the type of player he is..   He's putting up career highs for O-swing and contact rates and his pull rate has cratered hard -- it's like he's become Ichiro. 

[ukyah]

why would you reject the astros trade? other than the state of texas sucks, of course, but the astros are a team on the rise both long term and short term.

[laagamer]

It's interesting to watch... There are things he's doing that are uncommon for the type of player he is.. He's putting up career highs for O-swing and contact rates and his pull rate has cratered hard -- it's like he's become Ichiro.

He's a power pull hitter turning into Ichiro. That's how you turn around the tail of your career. Kudos to him. If he stays at this approach, it'd stump me lol

[Pujols4MVP]

It's interesting to watch...   There are things he's doing that are uncommon for the type of player he is..   He's putting up career highs for O-swing and contact rates and his pull rate has cratered hard -- it's like he's become Ichiro. 

 

Its interesting cause he's such a slow base runner & even worse than Miggy that his high OBP & AVG make him ineffective when he reaches base.

They probally have to like hit a double for him to go 1st to 3rd.

Edited July 30, 2015 by MikeScioscia4MVP