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But I can't wait for Trout to overtake Harper in WAR.

There needs to be a Trout Mang thread - not enough appreciation for this guy. Seriously he's a superhero.

 

4.54 - Harper

3.93 - Goldschmidt

3.23 - Trout

 

 

After three straight years leading MLB, this time Trout is pretty far behind Harper and Goldschmidt in Offensive WAR (Defensive WAR is BS)

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Why does Harper jump up to 6.1 and Trout only to 5.2 in total war?

According to Baseball Reference, Harper is far above average defensively. According to Fangraphs, he's far below average defensively. 

 

Not long before the all star break in 2013 Baseball Reference considered Trout average. Fangraphs considered him the worst defensive player in baseball. Hence my earlier comment: Defensive WAR = BS

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Fangraphs bases its defense off of UZR, but in its little defense tab it takes into account positional adjustments for hitting (a good hitting second baseman is worth more than a player who hits just as well at first base). So to look at defensive WAR, look at the UZR stat on Fangraphs. And Trout was actually not even close to being the worst defensive player in baseball by fangraphs last year, but he was not rated well because of his arm and range.

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Harper and Goldschmidt are both having pretty insane years. One of them will win MVP (Harper) and the other is going to have as good a season you'll see without winning MVP.

Trout has a good shot at AL MVP, having partially to do with Cabrera's injury and the fact that Harper and Goldy are both in the NL.

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Harper and Goldschmidt are both having pretty insane years. One of them will win MVP (Harper) and the other is going to have as good a season you'll see without winning MVP.

Trout has a good shot at AL MVP, having partially to do with Cabrera's injury and the fact that Harper and Goldy are both in the NL.

 

Still won't make up for Trout getting screwed in past years. 

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Have you seen juiced up Barry's numbers? Harper isn't even on the same planet.

He's not as far off as you might think. Bonds' OPS+ from 2000-2004 averaged out at 242. Harper this year, 223. So, maybe he's not quite up to snuff with Bonds, but he's close. .343/.471/.709 is pretty sick in today's game.

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True but you can't really compare those numbers in a vacuum. Bonds was hitting during the juiced up offensive era, whereas Harper is doing this during a pitcher's era. The OPS+ is pretty telling.

 

Why are we talking about Harper in this thread anyway?

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True but you can't really compare those numbers in a vacuum. Bonds was hitting during the juiced up offensive era, whereas Harper is doing this during a pitcher's era. The OPS+ is pretty telling.

 

Why are we talking about Harper in this thread anyway?

 

Because some (confused) people think he's better than Trout.

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