Anyone else concerned about Weaver?

[19HALO71]

I know he was an 18 game winner last season. But it just seems that he can't hit his spots consistently. With how slow he is pitching there is absolutely no room for error, you have to hit your spots. Is he really going to be worth $20 million next season? I know this is not going to be a topic well recieved but at some point we have to start looking at what the options are.

 

Curious to know what you guys think.

 

Go Halos!!

[wopphil]

After that great stretch of 4 or 5 starts, he is back to being very hittable again. Has a 79 ERA+ on the season, which is quite bad.

Not sure what the solution is, but he is probably harming the team more than helping at this point.

[Ray McKigney]

He always looks angry. Haven't seen him smiling in the dugout once all season.

[stormngt]

Yes i am worried.

However if your suggesting a trade or dumping or demoting him than hell No. He has already earned the 20 million for next year and the benefit of the doubt. If he can be an adequate number 5 pitcher than i am happy.

I know he was an 18 game winner last season. But it just seems that he can't hit his spots consistently. With how slow he is pitching there is absolutely no room for error, you have to hit your spots. Is he really going to be worth $20 million next season? I know this is not going to be a topic well recieved but at some point we have to start looking at what the options are.

Curious to know what you guys think.

Go Halos!!

[WallyWorld]

He's just not a very effective pitcher anymore, that's really the long and short of it. Best to think of him as a back end of the rotation type of guy, which is fine. Is he going to be "worth" his salary next year? Nope. But oh well, that money is already committed and as others have pointed out, it's counterbalanced by the fact that the Angels had him at below market value for many years.

[HaloCory22]

I just assume his starts will include 3 things. 

 

1. Minimum of 2 HR given up

2. Boring game

3. A loss

 

 

He's not watchable anymore. Used to make it a point to clear my schedule to watch him pitch. Now its like.. Ugh Weaver tonight. Sad.

[19HALO71]

Yes i am worried.

However if your suggesting a trade or dumping or demoting him than hell No. He has already earned the 20 million for next year and the benefit of the doubt. If he can be an adequate number 5 pitcher than i am happy.

 

 

Trade, dump or demote? Absolutely not!!

 

I more than anyone is hoping that he can become a Greg Maddux type and really become an off speed / precision type pitcher. I just hope he gives the club reason to extend his contract. However, I am also pleased to read that others are concerned. I for one believe that the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the name on the back.

[ukyah]

there's only so many miles in an arm, and nobody knows how many. he's an awesome competitor and an all time great angel. if he can be a back end starter as he winds down his career, then great. if not, then i think weav's the type to exit gracefully. he's never been anything but a classy throw back player. 

[Angel Oracle]

Weave has never been a HOF caliber pitcher.

Weave has though always been HOF like in how he competes every start.

[19HALO71]

Weave has never been a HOF caliber pitcher.

Weave has though always been HOF like in how he competes every start.

 

Agreed AO.

 

Only compared him to Maddux in the hope of Weaver discovering a way to stay relevant with the Angels.

[Chuck]

Weaver's pissed he gave the Angels a hometown discount, knowing after his contract is over with us he's probably done. 

 

Not really, but I don't have anything else to offer. 

 

Oh and yes, I'm worried. There's no way he's your #2 or even #3 guy in a short playoff series. But he is.

[Jay]

didn't we just have this thread a week ago?

[Diaz15]

It's tough seeing weaver right now. Like many on this board, he was my favorite pitcher for many years. He's home grown, tough as nails, and was for many years our Ace.

He's a back of the rotation sort of guy now. This game is hard and crazy. One season you're Jered Weaver, the next you're Jeff Weaver.

[WallyWorld]

Weaver's pissed he gave the Angels a hometown discount, knowing after his contract is over with us he's probably done. 

 

Not really, but I don't have anything else to offer. 

 

Oh and yes, I'm worried. There's no way he's your #2 or even #3 guy in a short playoff series. But he is.

 

I think of him as a #4/5 guy this season. As far as where Scioscia might slot him if the Angels make the playoffs . . . I only hope that's a problem I get to worry about come October.

[Inside Pitch]

Weaver is getting by on guile, smoke, and mirrors.  He has zero margin for error and when he's not perfect he's going to get lit up.  As hard as it can be to see what time has done to him I still enjoy watching the guy take the mound and fight the good fight.

 

He may very well know the end is coming but he is still defiantly trying to tell fate..  "not yet"....

[Angelsjunky]

I'm not worried because I've accepted the fact that he's a #4-5 guy now.

[shellback]

some guys have been very sucessful with the speed and the stuff that weavers throwing up there. i just keep hoping he turns into a jaime moyer type.

[VariousCrap]

Concerned?  The dude is done.

[Angel Oracle]

That delivery isn't an easy maintenance thing, to be sure. He has now pitched some 1800 MLB innings with it.

[JoJo26]

He always looks angry. Haven't seen him smiling in the dugout once all season.

 

Because Lackey told him that Scioscia will yank your ass before you're ready...but he'll let guys like CJ throw 110 pitches...

 

Edited June 18, 2015 by JoJo26

[Jeff Fletcher]

He always looks angry. Haven't seen him smiling in the dugout once all season.

Which begs the question, where are all the posts about what a bad teammate Weaver is based on the same logic (body language, on field behavior) that led everyone to conclude Hamilton was such a bad teammate?

[Stradling]

Because Weaver looks like he cares is what you'll hear people say.

[Troll Daddy]

Was that shot of Weaver in the dugout recent?

[Stradling]

Was that shot of Weaver in the dugout recent?

Had to be last year because Howie and Freese are in the dugout.

[Glen]

Which begs the question, where are all the posts about what a bad teammate Weaver is based on the same logic (body language, on field behavior) that led everyone to conclude Hamilton was such a bad teammate?

Dammit, man. Quit making me question my assumptions.