Hamilton's Texas Press Conference

[Blarg]

The press leaked it to the press. They new Hamilton was called into MLB headquarters in New York and asked the Angels to verify. The story was going forward with or without a no comment.

[Blarg]

No, but you might be. I'm not saying their intention was to tank his value. I'm saying that ended up being the result.

 

And the obtuse statement remains valid.

 

Hamilton ended the season posting the fewest games as an Angel and with his worst statistical season.

 

He opted for shoulder surgery in February guaranteeing he would not be available for Spring Training.

 

He openly admitted his cocaine usage that was verified the Commissioners office and went to arbitration

 

He filed for divorce which solidified his life was circling a drain

 

He was damaged goods before the front office said a word.

[tdawg87]

They leaked the info of the relapse. They hoped the court of public opinion would help them. It did not.

 

Link?

[HaloMagic]

And yet they chose to, lowering his "relative" value. It wasn't that he was shown to be worse or even less committed. It just showed how uncommitted the Angels were to him. They proved they had no intention of keeping him thus allowing the Rangers to realize they had to pay very little to get him.

Even the obtuse such as yourself should be able to comprehend that Blarg.

[Blarg]

The Angels had no market for Hamilton, he had a no trade clause. Hamilton determined or rather undermined that scenario.

You're still being obtuse.

[HaloMagic]

You still don't get it. Not surprising. You have a history of struggling with simple concepts.

The Angels didn't lower his trade value to the market. They lowered his relative value by showing how much they didn't want him. By showing everyone else that they set up the situation they ended with. The Rangers didn't need to pay more than a few million to get him because the Angels showed they would be dumping him no matter what. They tried to up his value by claiming to have some plan to have him return to the team but everyone knew that was fake. Their attempt to bump his value back up failed after the Rangers called their bluff.

[Dick B Back]

You still don't get it. Not surprising. You have a history of struggling with simple concepts.

The Angels didn't lower his trade value to the market. They lowered his relative value by showing how much they didn't want him. By showing everyone else that they set up the situation they ended with. The Rangers didn't need to pay more than a few million to get him because the Angels showed they would be dumping him no matter what. They tried to up his value by claiming to have some plan to have him return to the team but everyone knew that was fake. Their attempt to bump his value back up failed after the Rangers called their bluff.

I'm struggling with your concept too. How could the Angels reduce his relative value when his trade value was already at ZERO based on his performance over the 2 previous seasons?

[HaloMagic]

It obviously wasn't zero because he just got traded.

[Dick B Back]

If his trade value was higher than zero, the Angels woulda got more than a few bucks.

[Blarg]

You still don't get it. Not surprising. You have a history of struggling with simple concepts.

The Angels didn't lower his trade value to the market. They lowered his relative value by showing how much they didn't want him. By showing everyone else that they set up the situation they ended with. The Rangers didn't need to pay more than a few million to get him because the Angels showed they would be dumping him no matter what. They tried to up his value by claiming to have some plan to have him return to the team but everyone knew that was fake. Their attempt to bump his value back up failed after the Rangers called their bluff.

You don't get it because you struggle with your ego, lifetime.

Hamilton had no value to any other franchise than the Rangers and even then it was only because Josh agreed to go there. The Rangers were never going to pay one extra dime or add one more ptbnl no matter if the Angels fellated Hamilton in public.

The Rangers front office knew exactly what the situation was, all of baseball knew what the situation was. Only you seem to not understand what the entire scope of this mess means.

The Angels could not promote in any way a player that relapsed and is now one **** up away from being banned from baseball. Hamilton was not going to net any more of a return than what transpired.

But you go ahead and stay in that altered reality if yours where you can pass some sort of judgement on the one party that didn't cause this entire clusterfrack.

[LAAFANofLA]

They tanked his value themselves hoping it let them escape the contract. Their plan didn't work.

 

Hamilton was already valued when he signed the contract to play for the Angels. Im struggling to understand how lowering his "value" now would help them escape his contract. Lowering the value of something does not void it of contractual obligation.

[starving]

How is it so easy to find blow at a strip club? I've been to a few and have never seen anybody doing blow.

 

Of course, I've never felt the need to ask, either.

 

cocaine is to strippers as spinach is to Pop-Eye.

[AngelsLakersFan]

It obviously wasn't zero because he just got traded.

The Angels gave up Josh Hamilton & $60+ million in exchange for nothing.

 

If we use a little basic algebra we can calculate Hamilton's trade value at -$60+ million...

[HaloMagic]

Hamilton was already valued when he signed the contract to play for the Angels. Im struggling to understand how lowering his "value" now would help them escape his contract. Lowering the value of something does not void it of contractual obligation.

Lowering his value didn't help them escape the contract. Their chosen method of trying to get out of the contract is what lowered his value. Talking him down and attempting to discredit him showed the Rangers just how little the Angels wanted Hamilton on their team.

[HaloMagic]

The Angels gave up Josh Hamilton & $60+ million in exchange for nothing.

If we use a little basic algebra we can calculate Hamilton's trade value at -$60+ million...

The Rangers paid $7MM to get him. That's his value to them.

[AngelsLakersFan]

You don't get it because you struggle with your ego, lifetime.

Hamilton had no value to any other franchise than the Rangers and even then it was only because Josh agreed to go there. The Rangers were never going to pay one extra dime or add one more ptbnl no matter if the Angels fellated Hamilton in public.

The Rangers front office knew exactly what the situation was, all of baseball knew what the situation was. Only you seem to not understand what the entire scope of this mess means.

The Angels could not promote in any way a player that relapsed and is now one **** up away from being banned from baseball. Hamilton was not going to net any more of a return than what transpired.

But you go ahead and stay in that altered reality if yours where you can pass some sort of judgement on the one party that didn't cause this entire clusterfrack.

 

I don't think this is verified, but I heard Hamilton nixed a deal that would've sent him to an NL team.

[LAAFANofLA]

They tanked his value themselves hoping it let them escape the contract. Their plan didn't work.

 

 

Lowering his value didn't help them escape the contract.

 

Still confused.

[Jeff Fletcher]

The Rangers paid $7MM to get him. That's his value to them.

6m

[HaloMagic]

The thing they used to try to escape the contract (distancing and discrediting) is what lowered his value. Lowering his value wasn't the goal. It was irrelevant to them. They didn't think they'd still be liable for the contract. They were and everyone saw how much they didn't want him.

[Dick B Back]

6m

The Rangers will easily make the 6 mil back from a bunch of dumb Texans buying Hamilton jerseys.

[Angel Dog and Beer]

The Rangers will easily make the 6 mil back from a bunch of dumb Texans buying Hamilton jerseys.

Yup, probably the same ones that burnt them up when he left. Brilliant!

[Troll Daddy]

You don't get it because you struggle with your ego, lifetime.

Hamilton had no value to any other franchise than the Rangers and even then it was only because Josh agreed to go there. The Rangers were never going to pay one extra dime or add one more ptbnl no matter if the Angels fellated Hamilton in public.

The Rangers front office knew exactly what the situation was, all of baseball knew what the situation was. Only you seem to not understand what the entire scope of this mess means.

The Angels could not promote in any way a player that relapsed and is now one **** up away from being banned from baseball. Hamilton was not going to net any more of a return than what transpired.

But you go ahead and stay in that altered reality if yours where you can pass some sort of judgement on the one party that didn't cause this entire clusterfrack.

How is it that Hamilton is one F up from being banned? A suspension is understandable.

[Ohtaniland]

[Troll Daddy]

Josh looking very healthy in that pic for a drug addict. The druggies I see on the street appear different to me.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

The Rangers GM was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said that he and Dipoto first discussed a possible deal during the off season, talks intensified recently and the deal was done. He went on to say that he believes that the Angels are being unfairly blamed for things that they did or didn't do. He said, "Ultimately Josh is responsible for his own behavior."