Middle of the order hitters not coming through

[QuinlansMinion]

Calhoun gets another base hit with the bases empty...

 

Yeah batting your 2nd best hitter and one of your best power hitters leadoff is a real bright idea.

 

This manager we have is crippling this team.

[Stradling]

With the performance of this team it doesn't matter. Johnny G has gotten on base as much as anyone on the team and he's batting directly in front of Calhoun. These complaints sound silly when the team has a bunch of .200 hitters. Now if we had five or six guys performing I could understand your gripe.

[QuinlansMinion]

With the performance of this team it doesn't matter. Johnny G has gotten on base as much as anyone on the team and he's batting directly in front of Calhoun. These complaints sound silly when the team has a bunch of .200 hitters. Now if we had five or six guys performing I could understand your gripe.

Trout walks again.  Pujols doesnt come through, again. 

 

Trout has 6 walks in his last 5 games including today.  Pujols has 2 hits in that span, 2 RBI both of which came last night.  

 

If only we had a guy who could hit for power and does better with runners on base hitting behind Trout.  Where will we find such a hitter. 

[Stradling]

Where will we find a lead off hitter? Or a 5-8 hitter.

[QuinlansMinion]

Where will we find a lead off hitter? Or a 5-8 hitter.

Yeah we sure could use a guy up there getting base hits with 2 outs and nobody on.  

[tdawg87]

Ideally Calhoun would be the perfect 2-3 hitter, with Trout batting either behind or ahead of him. Unfortunately the Angels have no one else to fill the leadoff role. Giavotella has been good so far, but he is essentially an Aybar type hitter. Not really meant for leadoff. Everyone else completely sucks balls right now.

 

It really just falls on Pujols not performing. Calhoun and Trout are doing their jobs. Pujols is not.

[hen3ry]

At this point let Hector Santiago hit for himself.  He can't do worse than Joyce or Iannetta.

[QuinlansMinion]

Ideally Calhoun would be the perfect 2-3 hitter, with Trout batting either behind or ahead of him. Unfortunately the Angels have no one else to fill the leadoff role. Giavotella has been good so far, but he is essentially an Aybar type hitter. Not really meant for leadoff. Everyone else completely sucks balls right now.

 

It really just falls on Pujols not performing. Calhoun and Trout are doing their jobs. Pujols is not.

Id take anyone else batting leadoff even if they can only manage a .320 OBP.  Its more important that we make pitchers pay for pitching around and walking Trout.  Calhoun is the perfect guy to do that because he crushes right handers and because his numbers are infinitely better with runners on base.  If Trout keeps that .436 OBP and has Calhoun hitting behind him, thats going to result in a ton of runs.  But unfortunately, Stradling and many others will always fail to realize this, and thus blindly defend the manager.

[Stradling]

QM give us a line up with the players we currently have instead of just pointing out what you don't like.

[Stradling]

I'm not defending the manager I'm stating the obvious, no one is hitting. So put Trout at lead off and bat Calhoun second. I'd be fine with that. But we truly have no one that can lead off. Also it's not like Trout isn't getting pitches to hit, he's working walks.

[hen3ry]

I'm not QM, but here's mine;

 

Giavotella 2b

Trout cf

Calhoun rf

Freese 3b

Pujols 1b

Cron dh

Aybar ss

iannetta/Butera/someone from AAA/we're screwed here anyway c

Green lf

 

Flip Green and Giavotella depending on who's hot.

We don't have a prototypical leadoff hitter on the roster, but that's ok.  

[Docwaukee]

Trout walks again.  Pujols doesnt come through, again. 

 

Trout has 6 walks in his last 5 games including today.  Pujols has 2 hits in that span, 2 RBI both of which came last night.  

 

If only we had a guy who could hit for power and does better with runners on base hitting behind Trout.  Where will we find such a hitter. 

It's not that I disagree.  Shuffle as much as you want, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit.  

[jsnpritchett]

I don't think the order really matters right now.  This is just a boring team to watch on offense.

[Stradling]

Oh and newsflash most players on this team right now when they get hits are doing it with no one on base.

[Ohtaniland]

Calhoun is hitting .345 right now so why is this even a thread. Kole is also giving us solid defense.

[fan_since79]

I'm not QM, but here's mine;

 

Giavotella 2b

Trout cf

Calhoun rf

Freese 3b

Pujols 1b

Cron dh

Aybar ss

iannetta/Butera/someone from AAA/we're screwed here anyway c

Green lf

 

Flip Green and Giavotella depending on who's hot.

We don't have a prototypical leadoff hitter on the roster, but that's ok.  

That's an interesting lineup. Definitely thinking outside the box there.

[QuinlansMinion]

You can rotate whoever you want at leadoff until someone sticks, right now Giovatella is playing well so id give him a shot.

 

JG

Trout
Calhoun

Pujols

Freese

Joyce

Cron

Aybar

Ianetta

 

This will give Trout better lineup protection.  And if pitchers decide to walk him that will work out in our favor.  

[QuinlansMinion]

Calhoun behind Trout.

 

It just works.

 

Side note.  JG 4 leadoff.

Edited April 30, 2015 by QuinlansMinion

[Stradling]

You do realize after you posted this thread This is Calhoun's first hit with a runner on base.

[QuinlansMinion]

You do realize after you posted this thread This is Calhoun's first hit with a runner on base.

Hes 9/23 with 2 homers with runners on this year.  Or do you just mean this game?  

[Stradling]

No I meant that after you posted that he had two at bats in that same game including a k with the bases loaded and one out and a few other at bats where he stranded runners. He's a stud though and like him hitting anywhere from 1-4.

[stormngt]

It's even sillier when people finally realizes the leadoff hitter only matters the first inning. One f'n at bat a game is supposedly killing us.

With the performance of this team it doesn't matter. Johnny G has gotten on base as much as anyone on the team and he's batting directly in front of Calhoun. These complaints sound silly when the team has a bunch of .200 hitters. Now if we had five or six guys performing I could understand your gripe.

[stormngt]

You do realize Calhoun normally bats ahead of Trout. Don't you?

Ideally Calhoun would be the perfect 2-3 hitter, with Trout batting either behind or ahead of him. Unfortunately the Angels have no one else to fill the leadoff role. Giavotella has been good so far, but he is essentially an Aybar type hitter. Not really meant for leadoff. Everyone else completely sucks balls right now.

It really just falls on Pujols not performing. Calhoun and Trout are doing their jobs. Pujols is not.

[QuinlansMinion]

If we keep Calhoun behind Trout full time even when Pujols comes back, this offense will be dangerous. It just makes too much sense with Trouts obp and Calhouns slugging.

JG

Trout

Cal

Pujols

Start printing World Series tickets.

[Angel Oracle]

The return of the gloss:

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