Josh Hamilton meets with MLB officials about a disciplinary issue

[ukyah]

Because the collective bargaining agreement doesn't allow them to.

 

 

ok. i wasn't aware of that. it seems strange that you can't have protections for yourself as an organization, but it's mlb so whatevs.

[Erstad Grit]

I hoped he's banned for life and voided contract. Even if it's not my money. 

[Blarg]

Except wouldn't Arte then have to then pay him every cent reaming on the contract? If he doesn't release him then Hamilton will still be subject to drug tests and will soon be banned.

 

He did it before with Appier. Gave away Matthews to the Mets. I don't think he would subject another team to this problem by trying to trade him and I'm quite sure no team is taking that call right now.

[Lhalo]

ok. i wasn't aware of that. it seems strange that you can't have protections for yourself as an organization, but it's mlb so whatevs.

 

Unions: 101

[mp170.6]

Question:  is it normal for players to meet with MLB execs in New York over suspensions of 80 games?

[Blarg]

As usual there is nothing on Sports Center right now about Hamilton but they are covering a comment by David Ortiz that he won't stay in the batters box.

[Mile High Dreams]

Heh, good one.  Seriously though, he had no accountability person since coming to the Angels, right? 

 

If so, Moreno/DiPoto/Scioscia are to blame for not insisting on one.

 

Why does anyone need an accountability person? Shouldn't we all just be accountable for ourselves? Angels FO is not to blame for Hamilton's errors...Hamilton is.

[VariousCrap]

Question:  is it normal for players to meet with MLB execs in New York over suspensions of 80 games?

 

 

 

Very good question.

[Ohtaniland]

I also wonder about the "friend's ranch" that he was rehabbing his shoulder at in Houston.

Ron Washington's ranch is very pretty. It has tangerine trees and Marmalade skies.

[Mile High Dreams]

As usual there is nothing on Sports Center right now about Hamilton but they are covering a comment by David Ortiz that he won't stay in the batters box.

 

Perhaps you shouldn't use ESPN as your main source of news.

[Butcher'd]

Dumb question: Any suspension would for sure be without pay right?

[eaterfan]

The only thing is, I highly doubt they ban him or even suspend him for an entire year. Since he has fought so hard to be sober for so long I bet they go easy on him.

Can't even imagine the type of lawsuits that opens MLB up to. An organization like that can't just change policy because they really like you and it looked like you tried really hard.

[mp170.6]

Why does anyone need an accountability person? Shouldn't we all just be accountable for ourselves? Angels FO is not to blame for Hamilton's errors...Hamilton is.

 

Because that's what kept him out of trouble in Texas. 

 

Why give the guy a $125 million contract and remove his crutches so to speak in a new environment with new people?  That seems really stupid on Moreno's part.

[Mile High Dreams]

Because that's what kept him out of trouble in Texas. 

 

Why give the guy a $125 million contract and remove his crutches so to speak in a new environment with new people?  That seems really stupid on Moreno's part.

 

Why sign a guy with that kind history to begin with. Arte is more at fault for that than he is for Hamilton's inability to stay sober.

[Hollyw00d]

As usual there is nothing on Sports Center right now about Hamilton but they are covering a comment by David Ortiz that he won't stay in the batters box.

Of course he wont

[WallyWorld]

As usual there is nothing on Sports Center right now about Hamilton but they are covering a comment by David Ortiz that he won't stay in the batters box.

 

they took a break from their NFL coverage?

[FabulousFabregas]

Really ignorant to not have something in a contract that large that involves drugs and/or an accountability person, especially with his history.  I'd have had Johnny Narron signed as part of the contract.  I know an addict is an addict, and if there's a will there's a way, but the Angels should have at least had something in place to protect their investment to the best of their abilities.

[FabulousFabregas]

Why does anyone need an accountability person? Shouldn't we all just be accountable for ourselves? Angels FO is not to blame for Hamilton's errors...Hamilton is.

The Angels aren't to blame for what Hamilton did, but they are to blame for not having anything in his contract to protect their investment.

[Hollyw00d]

I feel bad for his kids.

I hate to say it, but it was pretty irresponsible for him to have a large family.

Dude can't even go anywhere without a babysitter following him around and giving him an allowance. He can barely take care of himself, and can't deal with the responsibility of being a good parent.

I feel bad for his kids too.

[nando714]

HAMILTON:

SCIOSCIA:

MORENO:

ANGELS FANS:

Aw.com in pictures

[mp170.6]

Why sign a guy with that kind history to begin with. Arte is more at fault for that than he is for Hamilton's inability to stay sober.

 

That's a valid point.  I can't disagree with you there. 

 

Something which baffles my mind is the recklessness of Moreno in wasting money.  How did he ever become a billionaire spending money like this? 

[Blarg]

Perhaps you shouldn't use ESPN as your main source of news.

 

The Mad Dog was on MLB Channel. Nothing coherent coming from that.

[FabulousFabregas]

As mentioned before a clause like that cannot be included in players' contracts. The unions run the show in MLB.

Hadn't thought of that, but that's a rule that should definitely be changed.

[robblin17]

That's a valid point.  I can't disagree with you there. 

 

Something which baffles my mind is the recklessness of Moreno in wasting money.  How did he ever become a billionaire spending money like this? 

 

I always find this interesting because from what I have heard is that Moreno runs one of the most frugal front offices in all of baseball. Something even to the effect that the FO people are underpaid and under staffed.

 

Just hearsay from those I know that have worked in the FO and I believe there was an article about the slim team the Angel FO has. 

[mp170.6]

I always find this interesting because from what I have heard is that Moreno runs one of the most frugal front offices in all of baseball. Something even to the effect that the FO people are underpaid and under staffed.

 

Just hearsay from those I know that have worked in the FO and I believe there was an article about the slim team the Angel FO has. 

 

I've heard that too. 

How much money would you guess Moreno has flushed on bad contracts since his arrival?  I would guess at least $500 million.