Chargers, Raiders discuss plan to share new stadium in Carson

[Lou]

Two football teams in the same stadium makes sense. There are only 8 home games per season, this would raise that to 18 regular season games.

 

public school math?

[Lou]

if by interesting you mean "i would not want to attend a game with lots of gangsters and convicts", then yes, you are completely right.

 

he never mentioned southern cal

[arch stanton]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/inglewood-consider-approving-plan-la-area-nfl-stadium-081528681--nfl.html;_ylt=AwrBEiINLu9UNFMAmp1NbK5_

 

Council OKs Los Angeles-area stadium backed by Rams owner

 

Looks like the Rams are ahead.

[Blarg]

public school math?

 

Yeah, You would have thought I was a USC grad with that mistake.

 

16 regular season games plus the preseason means the stadium is actually getting paid off in about 50 years.

 

But both teams will move in 20 claiming the facility is out of date.

[Jay]

Raiders-Chargers stadium plan approved by Carson city council

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25158610/raiders-chargers-stadium-plan-unanimously-approved-by-carson-city-council

[nando714]

Can't wait for football to be back in la.

Hopefully it's rams and chargers

[nando714]

Bump for owners meeting in Chicago

Kroenke also making a pitch to his fellow owners today

[nate]

Can't wait to see more billionaires asking CA for public funding for a stadium.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Policy nails it today:

 

Policy argued that the Carson stadium solves the league's California problem by enabling the Raiders and Chargers to move out of what he called the two worst stadiums in the league. The project would also provide 8.5 acres for the NFL Network, a West Coast wing of the Pro Football Hall of Fame and other NFL entities.

“If you look at it, look at all the different pieces, it all kind of comes together and fits,” Policy said. “The puzzle gets completed.”

By moving to Los Angeles, the Chargers and Raiders would create what Policy told the NFL would be a 22 million-person "mega market," the largest market in the league.

"If the Chargers and the Raiders go to L.A., what you've done is create a mega market from Santa Barbara to Mexico, and you increase your population in that market by over 3.2 million people,” Policy said. “You're going to be slightly above New York in total population.”

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Can't wait to see more billionaires asking CA for public funding for a stadium.

 

**** it.  Brings great revenue to the area.  Carson is all in.  

[nate]

**** it.  Brings great revenue to the area.  Carson is all in.  

 

Plenty of economists have proven that the money it brings in is less than the tax payer cost.

[nando714]

Where's AO to chime in on the Rams!?!?!?

[Tank]

i think kroenke has already broken ground at hollywood park. what happens if he doesn't get the nod to move the rams?

 

personally, i wouldn't object to making a stadium there anyway and letting it be some kind of super bowl home year in year out.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Tank

[nate]

Doesn't the NFL have a provision where you can't own a sports team in another region from the NFL team you own?  I thought he has to sell either the Rams or all the Denver teams he owns soon.

[eaterfan]

i think kroenke has already broken ground at hollywood park. what happens if he doesn't get the nod to move the rams?

personally, i wouldn't object to making a stadium there anyway and letting it be some kind of super bowl home year in year out.

It's a big site with lots of commercial development. I believe the work has started on the other areas but not the stadium yet.

If the rams stay in Saint Louis they can use the space for other things.

[TeemuTrout]

Doesn't the NFL have a provision where you can't own a sports team in another region from the NFL team you own?  I thought he has to sell either the Rams or all the Denver teams he owns soon.

IIRC, technically his sons "own" the Avs and Nuggets. 

[nate]

Ahh, that is how he gets around it.

[nando714]

I was reading a article is that the nfl is gonna move the relocation date up to i think December (before su per bowl). Nfl isn't going to allow the teams to decide (if approved by owners) in the middle of the year to avoid conflict in their current cities

Rams and chargers are away from their home fields the last 2 weeks of the season.

Edited August 12, 2015 by nando714

[gotbeer]

Los Angeles expansion is the hot topic at NFL owners’ meeting

 

This is what is going to happen IMO.  You can't get 3 teams in LA.  Just can't.  That might kill the Carson project.  

 

Kroenke has the best plan, since he has the financing and land.  Even though St Louis might be giving the Rams the best stadium plan.  Kroenke is also worth $7.6 billion according to Forbes.  

 

So this is what I think is going to happen.  

 

Kroenke will be given the green light.  But he will have to pay the Chargers a territorial infringement fee of $500 million, that will go towards the new stadium in San Diego.  Raiders will be told to sit quiet for now.  The league will get a big relocation fee from Kroenke also, like a billion.  So he pays $1.5 billion + $1ish billion for the stadium or $2.5 billion est.  According to Forbes, Cowboys are valued at $4 billion.  Rams at $1.45 billion.  A team in LA with it's own stadium will be closer to if not more than the Cowboys, see Clippers.  So $1.45 + $2.5 is still less than the $4 billion+ it will probably be worth.  

 

So Kroenke will get a new stadium in Los Angeles.  The Chargers will get a new stadium in San Diego.  Which means St Louis will suck it.  But it's better than San Diego and St Louis sucking it.  Raiders will be in limbo.  

 

Then the NFL will announce their plan to expand to Britain.  British Raiders, entire new territory for them.  Of course Britain will have to build a stadium or partially for them.  

 

2 new territories, LA and Britain.  3 new stadiums.  1 suck it.  With a huge new expansion of the client base.  

[halobob]

Los Angeles expansion is the hot topic at NFL owners’ meeting

 

This is what is going to happen IMO.  You can't get 3 teams in LA.  Just can't.  That might kill the Carson project.  

 

Kroenke has the best plan, since he has the financing and land.  Even though St Louis might be giving the Rams the best stadium plan.  Kroenke is also worth $7.6 billion according to Forbes.  

 

So this is what I think is going to happen.  

 

Kroenke will be given the green light.  But he will have to pay the Chargers a territorial infringement fee of $500 million, that will go towards the new stadium in San Diego.  Raiders will be told to sit quiet for now.  The league will get a big relocation fee from Kroenke also, like a billion.  So he pays $1.5 billion + $1ish billion for the stadium or $2.5 billion est.  According to Forbes, Cowboys are valued at $4 billion.  Rams at $1.45 billion.  A team in LA with it's own stadium will be closer to if not more than the Cowboys, see Clippers.  So $1.45 + $2.5 is still less than the $4 billion+ it will probably be worth.  

 

So Kroenke will get a new stadium in Los Angeles.  The Chargers will get a new stadium in San Diego.  Which means St Louis will suck it.  But it's better than San Diego and St Louis sucking it.  Raiders will be in limbo.  

 

Then the NFL will announce their plan to expand to Britain.  British Raiders, entire new territory for them.  Of course Britain will have to build a stadium or partially for them.  

 

2 new territories, LA and Britain.  3 new stadiums.  1 suck it.  With a huge new expansion of the client base.  

 

GB, I hope you're right!

[Angel Oracle]

Bring the Rams back to their rightful home (1946-1994), much more history here than in Cleveland, and Frontiere stole them from SoCal.

SD is the Chargers rightful home, since 1961.

Raiders?    Just like the franchise, stadium issues in limbo

Edited October 7, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[Tank]

I'm in favor of anything that keeps the raiders out of SoCal.

[nate]

I am in favor of any plan that means the Raiders move to Glendale!

[Tank]

I am in favor of any plan that means the Raiders move to Glendale!

 

i despise the very air that you breathe, you pseudo cheesehead.

[arch stanton]

Send the Raiders to St Louis