state of the union

[Crampknees]

How much does community college cost outside of California?

 

Here, it is $46 per unit which is nothing over the course of a year (30 units).  Textbooks are not cheap, but you can always swap with friends or sell them afterwards.  The worst case scenario is about $3000 per year in tuition, books, and maybe even parking. 

 

Why do these people need subsidies again? 

I feel old, I remember when I paid $9 a credit. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I hear you, Kurt. When I started at the University of Florida, $200 would pay for 15 quarter hours of credit.

[Tank]

Or an ®, especially when they talk about starting more trillion dollar wars.

I think dems have probably raised taxes more often than repubs have started two wars, but you get an A for effort.

Btw, Barry told congress tonight he wanted authorization for military options against ISIL.

Edited January 21, 2015 by Tank

[IEAngelsfan]

I feel old, I remember when I paid $9 a credit. 

I have you beat.  Other than books, I paid nothing.

[Jason]

 

How much does community college cost outside of California?

 

Here, it is $46 per unit which is nothing over the course of a year (30 units).  Textbooks are not cheap, but you can always swap with friends or sell them afterwards.  The worst case scenario is about $3000 per year in tuition, books, and maybe even parking. 

 

Why do these people need subsidies again?

 They don't need them. The Dems need votes. It's nothing more than bribery

[DowningRules]

Seeing as how most people who go to community college actually work for a living and have families and/or themselves to support while going to school, which takes up a good amount of time and energy itself, then yes subsidies are nice.

3000 dollars is a bit more than a cheeseburger.

 

Why should my income be penalized to pay for someone's decision to have a family?  Life is about choices.  Just like health care, you can't have it all.

[DowningRules]

Those people have mommy and daddy paying or rack up ten or hundreds of thousands in debt that they will never pay back

 

I wonder if mommy and daddy saved their money and invested wisely.  Either way, someone in that family should be punished for having the audacity of being able to afford college.

[Hollyw00d]

Can always count on DR to show up and spout some misanthropic BS

[DowningRules]

Let's face it the Democrats have always wanted the middle and high income earners to pay for the lower income earners. The faces change but the policies do not.

 

And they've been very very good at fooling the majority of the country.  Few Americans understand that to be in the top 50% of income earners, according to the IRS, you need only make $33,048 (according to the IRS for 2014).  Read that statistic again.  $33,048 puts you in the top 50%.  You couldn't live on that in California.

 

To be in the top 25%?  $67,280.

 

Top 5%?  $159,619.

 

So yes, let's tax the rich and fund these pie in the sky programs for all.  Or some, anyways.  That top 25% doesn't know how good they have it.  Bunch of rich assholes!  Flaunting that $67,280 around while the rest of us lease our BMWs and go to South Coast Plaza when we lose a button on a shirt on our way out to dinner.  

[DowningRules]

Can always count on DR to show up and spout some misanthropic BS

 

Thanks.  But I was more hoping you'd work in the race card some how.  Disappointed.  

[mp170.6]

The point I was making is that $3000 isn't difficult to earn.  Two semesters of college = 8 months a year.  You could easily earn that amount and much more by working full-time the remaining 4 months of the year, supplementing it with part time work while going to school. 

[Schildog]

Why should my income be penalized to pay for someone's decision to have a family?  Life is about choices.  Just like health care, you can't have it all.

 

why should my income be penalized to pay for banks' cavalier attitudes towards finance? business is about choices. just like unicorns, you can't have it all.

[nate]

Btw, Barry told congress tonight he wanted authorization for military options against ISIL.

 

Only part I cared about.  What a load of crap.  This country is so screwed.  I feel bad for our children and grandchildren.  Not sure they will have anything left.

[Jay]

Same old liberal drivel. Same old stale ideas. "America sucks, and I want to fix it." Last November Obama said that he wasn't on the ballot but his policies were. The policies lost.

[Schildog]

america does suck and nobody wants to fix it.

[RallyMo]

No solutions offered on how to pay for it, either. We all know what that means from a (D).

The same thing that it means from the ®'s that I assume you've voted for in the past?

[RallyMo]

I think dems have probably raised taxes more often than repubs have started two wars, but you get an A for effort.

Btw, Barry told congress tonight he wanted authorization for military options against ISIL.

You'd be hard pressed to find something as expensive on almost every level (money and lives, especially) as the wars the guys I assume you punched your ticket for lusted after.

[fan_since79]

Exactly my thoughts. If they do this with 529's I'm sure Roth IRAs and other type of investments that have tax benefits aren't far behind.

 

You just know they want to get a hold of those Roth IRA's. I'm rethinking whether to take the tax cut up front and switch to a standard IRA. At least I'll get the benefit before the government grabs it.

[RallyMo]

I wonder if mommy and daddy saved their money and invested wisely. Either way, someone in that family should be punished for having the audacity of being able to afford college.

We definitely shouldn't do anything educationally to help the people who had the audacity as children to consciously make their parents be poor.

[fan_since79]

This morning he's hitting the trail to promote his ideas from last night. A never-ending campaign for this guy. This is the only thing he really likes to do as president. That, and picking fights with the opposition. I hope he realizes that most of his proposals are DOA.

 

 

[DowningRules]

why should my income be penalized to pay for banks' cavalier attitudes towards finance? business is about choices. just like unicorns, you can't have it all.

 

...then go after the banks and their cavalier attitudes, which I would not be against, for the most part.  However, be warned that whatever the banks lose monetarily because of government legislation, they will pass on to you and me in the form of new and higher fees.  Indeed, you can't have it all.  

[DowningRules]

This morning he's hitting the trail to promote his ideas from last night. A never-ending campaign for this guy. This is the only thing he really likes to do as president. That, and picking fights with the opposition. I hope he realizes that most of his proposals are DOA.

 

Last night was your basic campaign speech.  Lots of bold and great sounding treats, on the face.  Populist hip-checking and calls for unity whilst blaming the other guys and threatening a veto if the cool guy doesn't get his way.

 

The swagger is back!  And a Clooney dinner can't be far behind.

[RallyMo]

This morning he's hitting the trail to promote his ideas from last night. A never-ending campaign for this guy. This is the only thing he really likes to do as president. That, and picking fights with the opposition. I hope he realizes that most of his proposals are DOA.

Wait, he's going to promote his ideas to try and gain support for them?

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS CRAZY MAVERICK GUNSLINGER DOING?

[TobiasFunke]

I know, it's crazy fansince. No president ever has gone around after his SOTU address to promote his points.

 

Not one president everrr.....

[fan_since79]

NY Times headline this morning, 

Bold Call to Action in Obama’s State of the Union, Even if No Action Is Likely

 

This begs the questions, WHY do we need more government "action"? WHY do we need even more taxes and government spending? WHY do the American people need more free stuff which is not really free? WHY does the federal government's spending need to exceed inflation year after year? WHY do we need to go deeper and deeper into debt ($18 TRILLION and growing) to give people more free stuff?

 

The Republicans aren't asking those questions either. They want to grow government just like the Democrats. This country is headed for fiscal disaster, and at some point the bill will come due. Our children and grandchildren will get hit very hard.