Vlad and the Hall of Fame

[eaterfan]

Vladimir Guerrero: "Si me tocara elegir la gorra para ir a Cooperstown, seleccionaría a la de los Expos de Montreal." Attention: @jonahkeri

This was a tweet from Carlos Jose Lugo who is the assistant GM for a Dominican League team. Apparently Vlad said that on some show. My Spanish is bad but I gathered it means if Vlad could choose he would wear an Expos cap in Cooperstown if he gets in.

I ran it through translator and it didn't help much. Is that what the quote means? If so that's a bummer.

[LightTheHalo]

Time for a personal services contract and an Angels Hall of Fame ceremony to change his mind. Otherwise we're going to have to wait 20-plus years until Trout has been retired for five seasons until this franchise has a cap in the HOF.

[laagamer]

Here. 

 

 

http://www.halosheaven.com/2015/1/12/7532801/vladdy-wants-a-monteral-hof-hat

 

 

Don't worry. The pain will numb eventually. It'll hurt worse when Trout goes in as a Yankee.

[eaterfan]

Well as bad as that hurts at least we still have a team. Losing the team would be 1,000 times worse.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I know this won't be the popular sentiment but I think he should go in as an expo.  

[Guest]

Kinda awkward how Vlad and Trout have the same number.

[NJHalo]

The good news is that by using the same logic, Napoli will go in wearing an Angels cap

[ELEVEN]

It should be up to the player.

Are there other Expos in the HOF with the Montreal cap?

Seems like the Expos existence should be aknowleged in the Hall.

[Angel Dog and Beer]

He played 8 years in MON and 6 in LAA, with career stats as follows:

 

MON .323/.390/.978   234 HR, 702 RBI,  MVP 4, 6, 11, 13, 17, 24

LAA  .318/.381/.927   173 HR, 616 RBI,  MVP 1, 3, 3, 9, 14

 

Pretty close, and obviously better/greater stats given the two extra years he played in MON.  But his MVP and all his postseason experience is with LAA, which I would think factors in a lot.

 

Put an Angel hat on him dammit.

 

 

 

     

[ELEVEN]

Also, they signed and developed Vlad.

We signed and paid him.

Edited January 12, 2015 by ELEVEN

[Richard]

It should be up to the player.

Are there other Expos in the HOF with the Montreal cap?

Seems like the Expos existence should be aknowleged in the Hall.

 

 

Isn't the "It should be up to the player" logic the reason Ryan is in the hall as a freaking Ranger?

 

 

 

That being said, it wouldn't bother me much if he went in as a member of the Expos. Vlad-Angels era was awesome, but clearly he made his reputation as one of the games best in Montreal.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Richard

[MVTrout]

Bummer!

[ten ocho recon scout]

It was wade boggs who spoiled it i thought, didnt he sign with the rays with it in his contract hed go in with a tampa bay cap?

Shitty news about vlad though. Always thought hed be our first one...still hope he is.

[HaloCory22]

Had this argument with Ilten a few weeks back. I think its a no brainer that he goes in as an Expo. He was much better with them. Also, FWIW. I don't think its a guarantee he even gets in.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Cory

[Jeff Fletcher]

The reason it's not up to the player is because the HOF is a museum that is obligated to tell baseball's history as accurately as possible, regardless of a player's personal preference.

 

Wade Boggs, I believe, had something in this contract when he signed with the Rays about him wearing a Rays hat for the HOF, but Cooperstown nixed that for obvious reasons.

[KevinJ14]

He said before that he wanted to retire with the Expos, but couldn't because of obvious reasons.  Because of that, he retired as an Angel.

[ten ocho recon scout]

^sweet, now i can stop with my planned bbq of my vlad jersey and accompanied youtube video of me in tears.

[Angel Oracle]

His per year stats with the Halos weren't that much different from his Expos' per year numbers (.050 OPS difference), but he did win an MVP here and finished 3rd two other times.    His highest finish as an Expo was 4th.

In fact, his OPS+ was only .007 better with the Expos than with the Halos (.148 vs .141). 

 

He was better defensively and more dangerous stealing bases with the Expos.

 

And it was 6.5 seasons (not 8) that he played for the Expos, vs 6 seasons here.

 

Expos are already represented by Gary Carter.

 

I consider it 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Angel Oracle

[DMVol]

He said before that he wanted to retire with the Expos, but couldn't because of obvious reasons.  Because of that, he retired as an Angel.

Actually, he retired as an Oriole.....played for the Rangers and Orioles after the Angels...

[totdprods]

Actually, he retired as an Oriole.....played for the Rangers and Orioles after the Angels...

He then signed a one-day deal in April 2014 so he could formally retire as an Angel.

[Richard]

Actually, he retired as an Oriole.....played for the Rangers and Orioles after the Angels...

He signed a 1 day deal and retired as an Angel on opening day last year and then the Don Baylor accident happened.

[Erstad Grit]

Mike Piazza said he wants to go in as a Marlin. Jk

[Stradling]

Heaney will be in as a Dodger, because "they had a good run".

[Tank]

my heart says Angel, but my brain says Expo.

[laagamer]

 I don't think its a guarantee he even gets in.

 

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CJuLc0dlXn0/VBxzfuOdQ0I/AAAAAAAAaLo/wn9w3Km3D4s/s1600/which%2Bbrigs%2Bme%2Bto%2Bmy%2Bnext%2Bpoint.jpg