Divisional Round Weekend

[1nutkruk]

I think Manning retires.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I'd imagine so with the entire coaching staff being let go.  I could see them parting ways with guys who don't fit into their plans beyond a few years like Ware but I say that not knowing the exact details of his contract (think 3/30 with 20M guaranteed but not sure how guaranteed breaks down).  

[Spirit]

Let the Brock Osweiler era begin!

 

 

 

It was fun being a competitive team for awhile.  At least game tickets will be easier to get now.

[halobob]

Manning to the Bills...book it.

[nando714]

I think Manning retires.

There are 19m reasons why he doesn't retire

[Brandon]

Wow, this is awesome. What a great birthday gift!!

[Angels_Make_Me_Drink]

There are 19m reasons why he doesn't retire

Does Manning strike you as the guy who would chase money? Serious question, not being a smart ass. Its easier from my POV to ask because I'm not staring at $19 mil, but he doesn't strike me as the type. 

 

I think its 50/50 if Manning retires. I'm leaning towards yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went for one last go at it. 

 

Manning to Buffalo? I don't think he will fair to well up there.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

Manning doesn't need the money and that aside even if he does play next year I don't see him in Buffalo.  They play outside, are in the AFC East, don't have that good of an offense and just hired a defensive minded coach who likes to run the ball.  

[Spirit]

If Manning stays, 2015/16 will look just the same as 2014/15.  Maybe 1 or 2 less wins.  But they'll go to the playoffs, and get quickly bounced. 

 

If the Broncos let Manning move along, they Broncos are a coin flip for the playoffs.  But they'll begin building for the next era.  

 

I'm ready for a change.  Even if it means being the Chiefs or Chargers for a couple of years. 

[nando714]

Does Manning strike you as the guy who would chase money? Serious question, not being a smart ass. Its easier from my POV to ask because I'm not staring at $19 mil, but he doesn't strike me as the type.

I think its 50/50 if Manning retires. I'm leaning towards yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went for one last go at it.

Manning to Buffalo? I don't think he will fair to well up there.

Im saying he's gonna get healthy in the off season. Find out he can play at a high level again and want to play. Whether its in denver tennessee buffalo or any other organization that wants him. I'm sure there are plenty of teams that will take manning for a year or 2. 1 to sell tickets and 2 hopefully have a good season and make the post season

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

When they signed Manning I thought the window was 2-3 years.  They got about 2.75 years before he got injured and while I wish they won it all it was a fun 3 years.  Rebuilding sucks but at the same time it's a necessary evil and it's just something new to look forward to.  

[nando714]

How is denver rebuilding when they inked talib to 6 yrs 58m. TJ ward to 4 yr 22m deal. Demarcus ware 3 yr 30m deal. Chris Harris 5 yrs 42m deal. Emmanuel sanders 3 yrs 15m. Clady just got 5yrs 52m.

I think d.Thomas is due a contract as well along with julius thomas.

I think denver cuts their ties with manning and looKS for a new qb. I don't think they rebuild with some of the deals they've handed out lately

Manning in St louis? Idk if he wants to face those nfc west defenses twice a yr tho

Edited January 13, 2015 by nando714

[nate]

They won't cut ties with him, they owe him too much money.  Either he decides to keep playing and plays for Denver or he retires.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

How is denver rebuilding when they inked talib to 6 yrs 58m. TJ ward to 4 yr 22m deal. Demarcus ware 3 yr 30m deal. Chris Harris 5 yrs 42m deal. Emmanuel sanders 3 yrs 15m. Clady just got 5yrs 52m.

I think d.Thomas is due a contract as well along with julius thomas.

I think denver cuts their ties with manning and looKS for a new qb. I don't think they rebuild with some of the deals they've handed out lately

Manning in St louis? Idk if he wants to face those nfc west defenses twice a yr tho

Any time you go from an elite QB to an unproven commodity like Osweiler while letting your entire coaching staff go you're doing some type of rebuilding. It may not be a 5-10 year plan where you pray for a top QB in the draft but it's generally a few years until you hope to be better than a fringe playoff team. They still have a skilled roster but the top teams generally have top 10-15 QB's which isn't something they will have if Manning is gone. Maybe retooling is a better word.

[Brandon]

Yeah, you have to have a top qb.

Plus, in the nfl you can just cut dudes and move on. The key is to no be the Titans or Jags. It's so critical that your qb pans out or that you get a competent one.

[nate]

Sounds like Manning will be back and Gase will be the new head coach anyway

[Brandon]

So another OC that Manning makes look good for HC?

I'm cool with another Denver assistant getting a HC gig with the recent track record.

[Lou]

How is denver rebuilding when they inked talib to 6 yrs 58m. TJ ward to 4 yr 22m deal. Demarcus ware 3 yr 30m deal. Chris Harris 5 yrs 42m deal. Emmanuel sanders 3 yrs 15m. Clady just got 5yrs 52m.

 

 

guaranteed money of those contracts :

 

talib = $25.5 M  

ward = $14 M  

ware = $20 M

harris = $24 M

sanders = $6 M

clady = $15 M

 

ergo, only $104.5M of that $219M is guaranteed 

 

 

would be nice if mlb operated that way

[nando714]

guaranteed money of those contracts :

talib = $25.5 M

ward = $14 M

ware = $20 M

harris = $24 M

sanders = $6 M

clady = $15 M

ergo, only $104.5M of that $219M is guaranteed

would be nice if mlb operated that way

You think the cut all those guys? They have to have some kind of cap hit as well.

[Lou]

no, i don't think they will cut all those guys

[1nutkruk]

How is denver rebuilding when they inked talib to 6 yrs 58m. TJ ward to 4 yr 22m deal. Demarcus ware 3 yr 30m deal. Chris Harris 5 yrs 42m deal. Emmanuel sanders 3 yrs 15m. Clady just got 5yrs 52m.

I think d.Thomas is due a contract as well along with julius thomas.

I think denver cuts their ties with manning and looKS for a new qb. I don't think they rebuild with some of the deals they've handed out lately

Manning in St louis? Idk if he wants to face those nfc west defenses twice a yr tho

I think Julius Thomas is gone.  They have to sign DT thought.  He is a beast.

[1nutkruk]

Sounds like Manning will be back and Gase will be the new head coach anyway

Gase is going to be the head coach of SF.

[Chimi]

I don't think Peyton will be back. I think the Broncos planned to have him for three years to win a Super Bowl. It also gave Osweiler three years to learn from Peyton. Osweiler is going into the final year of his rookie contract. Broncos might want to see what they have in him next year. Broncos didn't waste a 2nd round pick for a guy to sit on the bench until Peyton decides he doesn't want to play anymore.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Chimi

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I'm pretty sure if Manning wanted to come back assuming he's healthy they'd take him back and he'd be starting in 2015.  Word is that Elway and Fox weren't getting along for a while (same situation as San Fran just not public) so parting ways with Fox and telling the rest of the staff they're free to look elsewhere seems to be more of a statement about the Elway/Fox relationship than wanting to move on from Manning.  As far as using a 2nd round pick on Osweiler call me a skeptic but I don't think that means they view him as Aaron Rodgers ready to displace Favre who GB was ready to move on from.  Quite a few teams draft QB's in rounds 2-4 for for depth as NE has drafted 2 QB's in the last 4 years from rounds 2 and 3 which isn't a testament to their skill or ability to replace Brady.    

[Lou]

i agree,  cat.  

 

let us not  forget Denver once used a first round pick on Tim Tebow