Kendrick's Value

[HaloCory22]

Here's an idea of what it might be. Angels and O's were in talks for a Chen/Kendrick swap. O's said no. Wasn't enough apparently. Interesting?

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bal-orioles-receiving-lots-of-calls-on-chen-had-talks-with-angels-earlier-in-offseason-20141206-story.html

 

[ScottT]

Kendrick is worth more than Chen.  

 

I'd look into extending Kendrick's contract.  

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

@MikeDiGiovanna: #Angels (cont): There was heavy interest in Kendrick early, but trade for RHP Nick Tropeano has lessened need/desire to trade the 2B.

[Bruce Nye]

Not a big surprise inasmuch as how much MLB teams value SP, notwithstanding having to deal with Boras.  However, I wonder how the players now value Boras as a result of the position he took with Morales and Drew costing each of them millions last year.

[nikkachez]

Eh whatever, I'd rather Keep Howie over Chen anyway. If CJ bounces back, I don't see Chen as an improvement over anyone in the rotation except Santiago. 

[laagamer]

Wow.

 

Why would we want that guy? For Kendrick? You've got to be kidding me. 

[arch stanton]

I guess the O's are willing to give Schoop another shot at that elusive 10:1 K:BB ratio he nearly managed last year.

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

I'm guessing Boras will continue to do just fine.  Every year someone seems to bring up that he cost so and so money yet he continues to get big contracts for some of his other clients. 

 

As far as Kendrick goes I'd be a fan of the Angels extending him if it's for 3 maybe 4 years max as he's signed through next year when he'll turn 32.  His decline won't happen right away but at a point you need to start going in a different direction. 

[nikkachez]

Wow.

 

Why would we want that guy? For Kendrick? You've got to be kidding me. 

He's not that bad, but certainly not for Kendrick. 

[nando714]

@MikeDiGiovanna: #Angels (cont): There was heavy interest in Kendrick early, but trade for RHP Nick Tropeano has lessened need/desire to trade the 2B.

Tropeano really might be the piece fellas

[laagamer]

He's not that bad, but certainly not for Kendrick. 

 

Yes

 

EDIT: He could be worse. But Kendrick is top 10 2B in baseball. I mean come on. 

Edited December 6, 2014 by laagamer

[Angelsjunky]

We'd need at least Bruce Chen.

[Angelsjunky]

On a serious note, there's a wide range of speculation about Kendrick's value - and some, I think, are over-valuing him quite a bit (e.g. Jordan Zimmerman). With position players and starters it isn't simply a 1-to-1 swap in terms of WAR. I don't think there's a good formula - because you have to take into account numerous factors such as age, money, and health. Wei-Yin Chen isn't quite adequate, in my mind, but isn't so outlandish. Chen and Zimmerman represent the possible range of trade possibilities. With Chen the Orioles would have to throw at least a grade B prospect in, while with Zimmerman the Angels would have to throw something in. Doug Fister might be a closer one-to-one trade.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

We'd need at least Bruce Chen.

Wrong chin.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chenwe02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.mlbtraderumors.com

[ScottT]

Age is irrelevant, mostly because they are both free agents after the 2015 season.  Kendrick is coming off a great season and isn't old my any means.

[Angelsjunky]

Wrong chin.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chenwe02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.mlbtraderumors.com

I was joking.

[Stradling]

If he can't get us at least a SOLID #3 or a couple nearly can't miss prospects then simply keep him.

[nikkachez]

Yes

 

EDIT: He could be worse. But Kendrick is top 10 2B in baseball. I mean come on. 

3.54 ERA last year with a near 4.00 K/BB ratio (that's very good) in almost 190 innings. I'm not saying it would've been a good trade, but saying he's terrible or horrible is definitely unfair. 

[SoWhat]

I'm glad this didn't happen. Kendrick has more value to the Angels than what Chen would. Keep Kendrick Unless someone offers a blue chip prospect or top of the rotation arm that's in his last year of a contract.

[Second Base]

This one makes sense for both sides in my opinion. The Angels have lots of SP depth but it's bottom heavy. There are legitimate concerns that CJ and Weav are more #4/5 starters at this point, which when combined with Santiago, Tropeano, Rasmus and Rucinski, it gives the Angels a lot of backend option, but nothing in the middle or front outside of Richards and Shoe.

They could use a #3 starter and Chen is that guy.

As for the O's, they're going to need the offense with Markakis and Cruz departing via FA. I'm really not sure why the O's said no unless the Angels are asking for prospects on top or if the O's see something in Schoop no one else does.

I fully expect Kendrick to be dealt for a good pitcher within the next 3 weeks.

[Stradling]

Weaver may not be an ace but he certainly isn't a 4-5.

[ukyah]

wei yin chen is quite a bit better than you guys are giving him credit for. it was a good move on dipoto's part to try and get him because he has little name value, that belie his stats.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chenwe02.shtml

 

broke in to the major leagues throwing 192 innings of 4.02 ball. his first year. had a good 2nd year that was curtailed some by minor injuries. right back at 200 innings level last year with excellent numbers all around. 

 

i think it would have been a very underrated steal if we could have got him. especially, if he was resigned.

[nikkachez]

wei yin chen is quite a bit better than you guys are giving him credit for. it was a good move on dipoto's part to try and get him because he has little name value, that belie his stats.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chenwe02.shtml

 

broke in to the major leagues throwing 192 innings of 4.02 ball. his first year. had a good 2nd year that was curtailed some by minor injuries. right back at 200 innings level last year with excellent numbers all around. 

 

i think it would have been a very underrated steal if we could have got him. especially, if he was resigned.

Boras client, might not have happened lol. Although maybe they could target him next offseason? Who knows 

[Docwaukee]

first of all, Weaver is not a 4/5.  Because if he is, then Wei-Yen Chen is a 6/7.  

 

Richards is a legit 1 and probably a 2 at worst

Weaver is a 2/3

Shoe pitched like a 2 last year.  Whether he can do it again is the big question.  

 

I don't feel like Chen is as good as any of those 3 and not a ton better than the plethora of those that will be vying for back end slots.  Santiago, Trop, Wilson maybe Rasmus.  

 

I just don't know how adding to the back end of the rotation makes up for the downgrade from Kendrick to Green.  

[Chuck]

While Dipoto said he's going to hold onto Kendrick, if the right deal is presented and Green has a good spring, he will not turn it down.

I'm good with Tropeano at #5.